09-25-2008, 12:08 AM | #801 | |
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09-25-2008, 09:27 AM | #802 |
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*joins audience*
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09-25-2008, 04:55 PM | #803 |
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McCain Will Lead America to the Light!! lol
Obama is going to convert us all to socialism. The gov is going to be HORRIBLE with him.
What is change? What does change mean to Obama? Tell me!!! lol MCCAIN is the president for me. Why? PROLIFE!! *******************LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION!**************** ........and dont you forget it....... Plus, his vice, Sarah, can takkle a moose. Pretty cool, eh? :-) |
09-25-2008, 04:57 PM | #804 |
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Er?
Again, EAR I will ask you - do you even know what socialism is? Or do you just speak like an ignorant bumper sticker and throw around soundbites?
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09-25-2008, 05:03 PM | #805 |
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Socialism...books def and my def
lol socialism...
A theory or system of social reform which contemplates a complete reconstruction of society, with a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor. in other words...no man has the right to life up to his potiental. We would be working for for others, not that it is bad, but ppl will take advantage of it. YOU COULD NOT LIVE UP TO YOUR POTIENTAL AND YOU WOULD NEVER GET THE JOYS OF HARD WORK! |
09-25-2008, 05:06 PM | #806 | |
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Er, no.
You state what socialism is (sort of), then say 'in other words' and describe something completely different. Have you read The Communist Manifesto? Das Kapital? Quote:
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09-25-2008, 05:09 PM | #807 |
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Ill give you a snip shot of my own life:
I go to a Catholic School. Its private and I pay for my education. I also pay taxes for public schools to go to school. I pay for MYSELF and OTHERS. And I believe that it is a good system. I already give plenty. No one takes advatage of the other. Socialism will bring it on. Unless you pay for two schools, one you dont even go to, or have another example... What is your opinion on Socialism? |
09-25-2008, 05:12 PM | #808 |
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Me?
I'm a socialist, and I couldn't disagree with you more. In fact, I don't even know where to start disagreeing with you. About me: I'm a grad student who works full time while trying to afford to live. I can't afford health care because I have to pay tuition and take care of myself. So right now I'm in the middle of a serious medical crisis because I'm really sick and can't go to the doctor. What's happening to me right now could cause serious and permanent damage to my heart. But since we have to pay privately for health care, and insurance would make it so that I can't pay my bills (or eat, for that matter), I have to sacrifice my health (and possibly my life). Is that right?
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09-25-2008, 05:16 PM | #809 |
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Im so sry, being in my position I am not able to relate to you and I dont mean to brag in anyway. I honestly didnt know this was going on. Have you tired everything you can? Have you already resorted to chaning govs?
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09-25-2008, 05:18 PM | #810 |
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Of course I have.
And I'm hardly in the minority. Stuff like this happens every single day to millions of uninsured people. My only point is that maybe before completely condemning a political theory, you should look at it from all sides. There are cons to socialism - I'm the first one to say that. But there are pros as well.
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09-25-2008, 05:20 PM | #811 |
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Is there a way to...idk...get in between? Without TOTAL socialism, but not total poverty?
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09-25-2008, 05:25 PM | #812 |
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Of course there is. Look at the political systems in Scandinavia, or in the United Kingdom.
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09-25-2008, 06:05 PM | #813 |
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Then who would be the ideal canadate?
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09-25-2008, 06:09 PM | #814 |
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There is no ideal candidate.
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09-25-2008, 06:11 PM | #815 | |
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All in all, I'll probably vote McCain. I dont like either candidate at this point, but McCain seems the "lesser of two evils". Ntice the quotes. They're in bold for a reason.
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09-25-2008, 06:12 PM | #816 |
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Amen to that.
If I am back in the country by then, however, I still think I'll go for Obama.... McCain is fine and all, but Sarah Palin as VP (and possible future president if poor old McCain dies) absolutely kills it for me..
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09-25-2008, 06:13 PM | #817 |
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lol i honestly think the same really. McCain is a bit of a hothead. lol I want to see Sarah up in office. lol McCain needs to die as soon as he can when he wins. lol jk jk
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09-25-2008, 06:16 PM | #818 |
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Not a fan of either one really.
but I hope for Obama. since i cant vote yet....
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09-25-2008, 06:20 PM | #819 |
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i cant vote either lol. its ok. Its just that Obama...well he scares me realy
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09-25-2008, 06:21 PM | #820 |
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How does Obama scare you, EAR?
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