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There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary |
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04-10-2003, 03:27 PM | #806 | |
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And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool. |
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There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary |
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04-10-2003, 04:47 PM | #809 |
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Hey... didn't Belgium side with the French? Nasssty Belgium. We'll all have to hate you now.
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04-10-2003, 05:15 PM | #810 | |
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Maybe you should read the Constitution before saying that it was a "quirk in the system" I haven't stated it in a while - I think it needs stating again. Basically the US is made up of 50 different countries who have joined together to form a Union (this was far more true in the early days of the United States though). Congress is made up of the states' representative to the Federal Government. The electorial college is there to make sure that all states have a say and voice in the Presidential Elections. Without the electorial college the only states the candidates would have to worry about in order to win would be the largest ones (10% of the US population lives between NY and Philadelphia). The smaller states would have no voice. Through the use of the electorial college the smaller states CAN affect the election and all states must be taken into consideration in order for a president to win.
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By the way - AMERICA was fighting a TWO front battle - no thanks from help from Europe. We were fighting TWO very powerful empirial countries (Germany and Japan). Imagine what we could have done if we had just had to deal with Germany.
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04-10-2003, 05:47 PM | #814 | |
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What is going on in Iraq is supported by OVER 70% of Americans. Do I agree with everything the president does? NO. Did I refuse to support things that Clinton did just because I didn't like him? No - I thought it was important to go into Bosnia, I was upset though that he didn't follow through with Somalia or going after Osama Bin Ladin - because of public opinion.
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Countries don't have friends but interests. I think in discussions of foreign policy it's important to remember that. The U.S was not founded to create global liberal-democracy-it was created to perpetuate American liberal-democracy, and it has done a good job of achieving its goal. To ask of the U.S anything more then that is highly hypocritical, as every country acts in its self-interest (if you think Britain would have minded a Soviet-German War in 1939 I have some swamp land in florida availible). The fact that U.S self-interest lies in making other people live under liberal-democratic governments so they can live in peace and prosperity (there's no need for subservient trade partners, only stable ones) IMO makes it better then Europeans-whose self-interests are largely inwardly directed at this point, or China-whose interests lie in making people subservient to China. Since those are the two regions with the potential to have global power at this point (only China really), I know who I'd support.
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04-10-2003, 06:00 PM | #818 | |
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Puppet show? I wonder if it is Spitting Image your talking about, that hasn't been on our tv for a number of years....and yes it was incredibly good at Lampooning all politicians (the Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher sketches are part of comic history). Yup, I've never been to North America....it's quite worrying that all my opinions come from the media and second-hand accounts from friends that have lived there *shrugs*......oh well, if I ever win a free holiday to the States then I might worry about it |
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