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The interesting feature is that none of my ultra sounds actually show cysts, I don't have the high Body Mass Index. The doctor just slapped the label on me because I am physically andogynous for no real apparent reason. I have had scans done of my brain and kidneys too. All negative.
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Gwaimir, I trust my professor. I've had him for two semesters now, and find him to be one of the most intelligent and knowledgeable people I've ever known.
But Gwaimir, I did bring up other sources to verify my points. I cited Minnesota State University, which says things very similar to what my history professor did. I also cited Wikipedia. And BB, here's my response to what you said about Wikipedia's reliability: Quote:
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Even past historians with a more direct experience with Sparta have their biases, and write about the aspects of the culture that interest them, not necessarily the entirety of what that culture was. They can also be guilty of writing towards their audience, expressing what they think their target audience wants to hear. I'm not saying you are right or wrong, but there is no "true" or "prove" when it comes to ancient history, only theory.
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This shows clearly that heterosexuality was not considered a great thing. It was only used for procreative purposes, as I've been saying from the beginning of this conversation. So heterosexuality was not considered a very positive thing, but this doesn't prove that humiliation occurred in it (aside from head-shaving). The website I cited also said that the woman was dressed in men's clothes, which might imply that even in heterosexual relations, a connection with men was enforced. Quote:
Wikipedia has been compared to Encyclopedia Britannica in accuracy though by a study from Nature. This shows that it is generally very reliable and accurate. The other two citations I have made are from universities, which also thus are very reliable. You have not made any attacks on my sources except to say that they're secondary. This is a true assertion, but it is not evidence that they are flawed. Indeed, there is good reason to believe (which I have stated above) that they are fully reliable. Quote:
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and your response to my questioning the validity of CNET News?
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Okay, here comes Plutarch; watch out!
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Sorry for not giving you much of a reply here at all, Gwaimir, but I think I'm done debating on this subject too. It takes more time than I want to spend and for me, it isn't important enough to continue focusing on.
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Fair enough; I can certainly understand that. I know I was quite overwhelmed by our debates a few years ago!
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so .... who won?
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I want to say Plutarch, but that would be sophomoric.
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