Who's the real hero of "Lord of the Rings"? - Page 4

Radagast The Brown · 08-30-2002, 04:03 PM

I'll do a (little) list - the real 4 heroes (choose one?)
1. Frodo
2. Gandalf
3. Aragorn
4. Sam

Telperion · 08-31-2002, 11:36 AM

I'd have to say Sam. He is the most loyal companion you could ever imagine. He saves the ring from being found by the orcs when he believes Frodo to be dead and he then rescues Frodo when he realizes he is alive.

Celebrian · 09-01-2002, 11:30 AM

It would have to be Sam. Without him Shelob would have killed Frodo, and Sauron would have got the ring. He was with Frodo the whole time, and was in almost as much danger. In the end, he finally had to carry Frodo! Sam is definitley the real hero!

Rána Eressëa · 09-01-2002, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by Ñólendil
Hardly makes him a hero, in my book. It was by mercy and pity that the job was done, for by mercy and pity Sméagol lived on and was allowed to take the Ring one last time. But Sméagol didn't try to destroy the Ring. He lost his footing and fell into the Fire.

Oh sure, give the credit to everyone else who didn't destroy the Ring. By accident or purpose doesn't really end up making a difference. Gollum is a hero by sheer accident because without him Middle-earth would have been doomed. He played a bigger part than you give him credit for.

Radagast The Brown · 09-01-2002, 03:36 PM

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originally posted by Rána Eressëa
Oh sure, give the credit to everyone else who didn't destroy the Ring. By accident or purpose doesn't really end up making a difference. Gollum is a hero by sheer accident because without him Middle-earth would have been doomed. He played a bigger part than you give him credit for.

There are more heroes there then Gollum (and I don't think he was hero anyway but I don't care if you will say he's a hero). Example: Gandalf, Aragorn and Legolas (who were heroes).

Sween · 09-01-2002, 03:40 PM

Legolas? he did jack s*** in the book

Rána Eressëa · 09-01-2002, 06:07 PM

Everyone who aided in the Destruction of Sauron, by accident or purpose, is a real hero. It's quite simple. They're all heroes.

But when it comes to who really destroyed Sauron through the Ring, I say Gollum. So in a way, he becomes a pitiful hero by saving everyone through his blinding greed.

katya · 09-01-2002, 09:38 PM

ack! i said before frodo and i still pretty much think so but i am starting to be convinced of sam's hero-ness. it's so confusing. i don't like thinking so much... they are of course all heros in a way but "the real hero" is another thing. i dont think there is a real answer, but there are a lot of good ones.

Rûdhaglarien · 09-02-2002, 01:36 AM

Sam. No if, ands, or buts about it... Sam was the hero, yep... Sam. I realize that without Frodo and Smeagol and everyone, the mission would never have been achieved, but Sam is the real hero.

entss89 · 09-02-2002, 10:10 AM

it could be strider.

entss89 · 09-02-2002, 10:12 AM

wait it could be sam!

entss89 · 09-02-2002, 10:13 AM

well it could be gollum because he destroyed the ring!

entss89 · 09-02-2002, 10:16 AM

now it is really the ents this time because they practicly killed isengard and what if they did not it wouldbe terrible!

Rána Eressëa · 09-02-2002, 12:33 PM

Like I said, everyone who purposely/accidently aided in the destruction of Sauron.

Liviaine · 09-02-2002, 08:25 PM

FotR: Frodo/Boromir
TT: Sam
RotK: Aragorn

Overall LotR: Gandalf

He's like their dad, their leader, so I have to say he's the hero of it.

The Ringbearer · 09-04-2002, 12:20 AM

How 'bout: Gandalf, Strider, Legolas, Gimli, Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, Boromir, Theoden, Eowen, Faramir, Gollum, Elrond Glorfindell, Bilbo, Tom Bombadil, Treebeard and the Ents, Wormtongue (he killed Sauruman), Galadriel, Eomer, and Shadowfax. Everyone contributed in some way, so they all helped destroy the Ring, so as Ran Eressea said, they are all the heros, right?

Did I spell Glorfindell right? *embarrassed giggle*

I still think Frodo and Sam are the heroes though!

Lanelf · 09-04-2002, 06:10 AM

Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam! And Gollum, poor li'l dude... And, well Frodo too, and Aragorn, and, well, Everyone! Except I don't like Gandalf, but I won't go into that now...

Sorry about the repetitive "Sam"'s. Won't happen again...probably.

Lanelf.
PS: Ringbearer, it's Glorfindel with one 'L'. Close enough, though. You should see some spellings: Glofinedll, Glorifindel, Gloifindel...

'The typos go ever on and on, down from the keys where they began...'

Entlover · 09-04-2002, 11:08 PM

Frodo.

Sam is cool, but think what would have happened if the ring had been found in Sam's house? Panic, running to Frodo for advice . . .no way could Sam have set off on an unknown journey as Frodo did. He matured along the way, but without Frodo the ring would never have been destroyed.

Caleb · 09-05-2002, 06:21 PM

...You can be a hero too, cause saving our planet is the thing to do, lootong and poluuting is not the way...

Harad · 09-06-2002, 12:59 AM

Anybody who is essential to the successful quest is a co-hero.

08-30-2002, 04:03 PM	#61
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	I'll do a (little) list - the real 4 heroes (choose one?) 1. Frodo 2. Gandalf 3. Aragorn 4. Sam __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

08-31-2002, 11:36 AM	#62
Telperion Enting Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Calgary Posts: 78	I'd have to say Sam. He is the most loyal companion you could ever imagine. He saves the ring from being found by the orcs when he believes Frodo to be dead and he then rescues Frodo when he realizes he is alive. __________________ Wherever you go, there you are. Aim for the stars, if you miss, you'll at least land on the moon! He who is made of air should not accuse the wind. My mind wanders. "Not all those who wander are lost." Therefore, my mind is not lost. Now, my question to those of you who doubt my sanity is this: How can someone who has not lost their mind be insane?

09-01-2002, 11:30 AM	#63
Celebrian Enting Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Calgary Posts: 75	It would have to be Sam. Without him Shelob would have killed Frodo, and Sauron would have got the ring. He was with Frodo the whole time, and was in almost as much danger. In the end, he finally had to carry Frodo! Sam is definitley the real hero! __________________ All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost. Tall ships and tall kings, three times three. What brought they form the foundered land Over the flowing sea? Seven stars and seven stones and one white tree.

09-01-2002, 03:40 PM	#66
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	Legolas? he did jack s*** in the book __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

09-02-2002, 01:36 AM	#69
Rûdhaglarien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 288	Sam. No if, ands, or buts about it... Sam was the hero, yep... Sam. I realize that without Frodo and Smeagol and everyone, the mission would never have been achieved, but Sam is the real hero. __________________ I have a very expensive pen.

09-01-2002, 06:07 PM	#67
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	Everyone who aided in the Destruction of Sauron, by accident or purpose, is a real hero. It's quite simple. They're all heroes. But when it comes to who really destroyed Sauron through the Ring, I say Gollum. So in a way, he becomes a pitiful hero by saving everyone through his blinding greed.

09-01-2002, 09:38 PM	#68
katya Elven Maiden Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,309	ack! i said before frodo and i still pretty much think so but i am starting to be convinced of sam's hero-ness. it's so confusing. i don't like thinking so much... they are of course all heros in a way but "the real hero" is another thing. i dont think there is a real answer, but there are a lot of good ones.

09-02-2002, 10:10 AM	#70
entss89 lord of the ents Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: nc Posts: 539	hi it could be strider.

09-02-2002, 10:12 AM	#71
entss89 lord of the ents Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: nc Posts: 539	wait wait it could be sam!

09-02-2002, 10:13 AM	#72
entss89 lord of the ents Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: nc Posts: 539	hold on well it could be gollum because he destroyed the ring!

09-02-2002, 10:16 AM	#73
entss89 lord of the ents Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: nc Posts: 539	wait i think i have it! now it is really the ents this time because they practicly killed isengard and what if they did not it wouldbe terrible!

09-02-2002, 12:33 PM	#74
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	Like I said, everyone who purposely/accidently aided in the destruction of Sauron.

09-02-2002, 08:25 PM	#75
Liviaine Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ithilien Posts: 203	FotR: Frodo/Boromir TT: Sam RotK: Aragorn Overall LotR: Gandalf He's like their dad, their leader, so I have to say he's the hero of it.

09-04-2002, 12:20 AM	#76
The Ringbearer Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Crickhollow in the summer, and Rivendell in the winter Posts: 397	How 'bout: Gandalf, Strider, Legolas, Gimli, Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, Boromir, Theoden, Eowen, Faramir, Gollum, Elrond Glorfindell, Bilbo, Tom Bombadil, Treebeard and the Ents, Wormtongue (he killed Sauruman), Galadriel, Eomer, and Shadowfax. Everyone contributed in some way, so they all helped destroy the Ring, so as Ran Eressea said, they are all the heros, right? Did I spell Glorfindell right? embarrassed giggle I still think Frodo and Sam are the heroes though! __________________ 'Go away, and never come back!!' '......what?' 'But you're a part of this world! Aren't you?' Frodo lives!

09-04-2002, 06:10 AM	#77
Lanelf Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Second Drawer Down Posts: 407	Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam! And Gollum, poor li'l dude... And, well Frodo too, and Aragorn, and, well, Everyone! Except I don't like Gandalf, but I won't go into that now... Sorry about the repetitive "Sam"'s. Won't happen again...probably. Lanelf. PS: Ringbearer, it's Glorfindel with one 'L'. Close enough, though. You should see some spellings: Glofinedll, Glorifindel, Gloifindel... 'The typos go ever on and on, down from the keys where they began...' __________________ Hey, I'm back! resounding silence You didn't even notice I was gone, did you? Well, I'm back now anyway. Artemis Fowl must find Mulch Diggums! You'll never shut down the real Napster

09-04-2002, 11:08 PM	#78
Entlover Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 463	Frodo. Sam is cool, but think what would have happened if the ring had been found in Sam's house? Panic, running to Frodo for advice . . .no way could Sam have set off on an unknown journey as Frodo did. He matured along the way, but without Frodo the ring would never have been destroyed.

09-05-2002, 06:21 PM	#79
Caleb Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I'll never tell. Posts: 37	C. P. ...You can be a hero too, cause saving our planet is the thing to do, lootong and poluuting is not the way... __________________ -Caleb

09-06-2002, 12:59 AM	#80
Harad Hobbit Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 33	Anybody who is essential to the successful quest is a co-hero. __________________ the Gremlin

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