Sam finding Frodo - Page 4

***Khamûl*** · 03-25-2002, 11:13 PM

If they show Elijah Wood from the waist up, naked, and it's tastefully done, I'm OK with it. If they show ANYTHING more than that, I will march to New Zealand and tell Peter Jackson what I think about it. (Or at least write him a letter)

Just out of curiosity, why are you females averted to seeing Elijah Wood without clothes?

Starr Polish · 03-25-2002, 11:58 PM

Like you said, waist up is fine...lower legs is fine...just not completely nude.

PLEASE BE TASTEFUL.

Arathorn · 03-26-2002, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Starr Polish
Like you said, waist up is fine...lower legs is fine...just not completely nude.

PLEASE BE TASTEFUL.

I think Austin Powers did that; although half the population found it distasteful and half kept rolling off their seats in laughter the first time it showed.

jerseydevil · 03-26-2002, 12:05 AM

Bropous - that wasn't bumped to RotK - it's always been there. TT ends with Sam over hearing the orcs say that Frodo is still alive and following them. The gates close on him before he can get through. Book 4 leaves Sam passed out.

Starr Polish · 03-26-2002, 12:07 AM

There's a difference...
That was probably meant to be funny. Austin Powers wasn't exactly 'tasteful' (blech)

jerseydevil · 03-26-2002, 12:10 AM

Well FOTR was rated PG13 anyway - at least in America. They can show butt shots in that rating - so he may or may not be naked. I don't think it's something that Elijah Wood would have been comfortable doing - and if it is in there - it may be a butt double, not even him.

They can't show frontal in a PG-13 and is very rarely shown in R rated movies (at least when it comes to men). This is all based on American standards of course. In Europe - anything goes.

Starr Polish · 03-26-2002, 12:13 AM

Well, like it's been said before, the 'butt shot' may be considered too much because of the violence in the movie.

If there had been more violence, more graphic violence in Titanic it'd probably have been rated R.

What an odd thread to become and Elf Lord on.

jerseydevil · 03-26-2002, 12:15 AM

So a butt shot is more distrubing than the violence??? I'm not against the violence. But I do think that violence is worse than seeing a little nudity.

Anyway he'll probably be wearing a loin cloth. Something similar to the one Charleton Heston wore in Planet of the Apes.

Starr Polish · 03-26-2002, 12:19 AM

No, no...it's not so much 'worse', but having both violence AND nudity would push the rating over the edge.

I agree, although I never have been negatively influenced by violence on T.V. (probably because my father's view on how to raise his kids. "Learn how to kill people, but don't use it unless they're trying to kill you..." kind of..)

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-26-2002, 02:19 AM

As long as they have Sam's song, and maintain the PG-13 rating, I'm happy.

RosieCotton · 03-26-2002, 09:55 AM

Okay, here's what I want:
Sam's Song
As Sam said, nothing below the Equator
PG-13 rating
Emotional performance (Go Sean Astin...I love that guy)

As for Arwen, why would she be ANYWHERE NEAR Cirith Ungol?

~Rosie~

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-27-2002, 03:26 AM

Oh yeah, of course. No Arwen and a great emotional performance. Thanks, Rosie!

RosieCotton · 03-27-2002, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eruviel Greenleaf
Oh yeah, of course. No Arwen and a great emotional performance. Thanks, Rosie!

Yep. No all we can do is hope and pray
*gets down on knees and prays for 20 minutes non-stop*

Okay. I think we have a pretty good chance now

Rosie

Elf Girl · 03-27-2002, 11:44 AM

Remember, this Arwen thing started as a joke. She is definitely not going to be there. As for Frodo's clothes, he'll probalbly have a loincloth or something. (he'd better) Of course, this is just my optimistic opinion.

bropous · 03-27-2002, 05:26 PM

A "butt-double"????? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

I can just imagine some girl taking her date home to meet the folks....."Mom, Dad, this is Scott. He's a butt-double. A hinder doppelganger. Mom? Dad? Are you guys okay?"

Tanoliel · 03-27-2002, 07:21 PM

I agree entirely, Rosie.

And as for Arwen...she wasn't anywhere near the Ford in the books! *sigh* Oh well. I'm sure she won't show up in Cirith Ungol. And I shall be severely disappointed and very angry if they don't have Sam's song....
Nyat, ya kashka.
Tano

TinuvielChild · 03-27-2002, 10:44 PM

tano, why are you a cat?

a BUTT-DOUBLE!!!! teeheeheeheeheee

anyway, in the not-very-good movie A Knight's Tale the minstrel dude was naked in his first scene and it had about 10 seconds with the lower left-hand corner filled with his butt, and that movie was only PG13.

Starr Polish · 03-27-2002, 10:54 PM

His name was Chaucer (and he was a real person, but I don't think those events happened to him)...and yeah, but the violence in A Knight's Tale wasn't really as 'graphic' as LOTR's. Y'know, when they come out of Moria and are all covered in black stuff? Orc blood...yuuup.

TinuvielChild · 03-27-2002, 11:06 PM

true, but....oh, what's the use, i'm fighting a losing battle. sorry i forgot his name, i only saw the bloody movie once!

sorry for getting annoyed, i'm in a pissy mood for no reason at all except that all my summer camp friends except Menelvagor are going to the same camp session as me and Menelvagor is the only one of my camp friends to post on Entmoot (Daughter of Elros would but she is having posting problems)...and that was the rambling of an insane HAMSTER (lol Menelvagor). that makes that statement fully true.

TinuvielChild · 03-27-2002, 11:07 PM

i'm rambling and i know it, so i'm going to sit down in this corner over here and shut up, except to say that they BETTER put the song in cuz if they don't, i'm going to be applying Sting to Peter Jackson's skull...

03-25-2002, 11:13 PM	#61
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	If they show Elijah Wood from the waist up, naked, and it's tastefully done, I'm OK with it. If they show ANYTHING more than that, I will march to New Zealand and tell Peter Jackson what I think about it. (Or at least write him a letter) Just out of curiosity, why are you females averted to seeing Elijah Wood without clothes? __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

03-25-2002, 11:58 PM	#62
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Like you said, waist up is fine...lower legs is fine...just not completely nude. PLEASE BE TASTEFUL. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-26-2002, 12:05 AM	#64
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	Bropous - that wasn't bumped to RotK - it's always been there. TT ends with Sam over hearing the orcs say that Frodo is still alive and following them. The gates close on him before he can get through. Book 4 leaves Sam passed out. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-26-2002, 12:07 AM	#65
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	There's a difference... That was probably meant to be funny. Austin Powers wasn't exactly 'tasteful' (blech) __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-26-2002, 12:10 AM	#66
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	Well FOTR was rated PG13 anyway - at least in America. They can show butt shots in that rating - so he may or may not be naked. I don't think it's something that Elijah Wood would have been comfortable doing - and if it is in there - it may be a butt double, not even him. They can't show frontal in a PG-13 and is very rarely shown in R rated movies (at least when it comes to men). This is all based on American standards of course. In Europe - anything goes. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide Last edited by jerseydevil : 03-26-2002 at 12:13 AM.

03-26-2002, 12:13 AM	#67
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Well, like it's been said before, the 'butt shot' may be considered too much because of the violence in the movie. If there had been more violence, more graphic violence in Titanic it'd probably have been rated R. What an odd thread to become and Elf Lord on. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-26-2002, 12:15 AM	#68
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	So a butt shot is more distrubing than the violence??? I'm not against the violence. But I do think that violence is worse than seeing a little nudity. Anyway he'll probably be wearing a loin cloth. Something similar to the one Charleton Heston wore in Planet of the Apes. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide Last edited by jerseydevil : 03-26-2002 at 12:17 AM.

03-26-2002, 12:19 AM	#69
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	No, no...it's not so much 'worse', but having both violence AND nudity would push the rating over the edge. I agree, although I never have been negatively influenced by violence on T.V. (probably because my father's view on how to raise his kids. "Learn how to kill people, but don't use it unless they're trying to kill you..." kind of..) __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-26-2002, 02:19 AM	#70
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	As long as they have Sam's song, and maintain the PG-13 rating, I'm happy. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-26-2002, 09:55 AM	#71
RosieCotton Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hobbiton...no wait.... Posts: 263	Okay, here's what I want: Sam's Song As Sam said, nothing below the Equator PG-13 rating Emotional performance (Go Sean Astin...I love that guy) As for Arwen, why would she be ANYWHERE NEAR Cirith Ungol? ~Rosie~ __________________ Fortune rides like the Sun on high With the fox that makes the ravens fly Luck his sould, the lightning his eye He snatches the moons from out of the sky.

03-27-2002, 03:26 AM	#72
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Oh yeah, of course. No Arwen and a great emotional performance. Thanks, Rosie! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-27-2002, 11:44 AM	#74
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	Remember, this Arwen thing started as a joke. She is definitely not going to be there. As for Frodo's clothes, he'll probalbly have a loincloth or something. (he'd better) Of course, this is just my optimistic opinion. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

03-27-2002, 05:26 PM	#75
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	A "butt-double"????? ROTFLMAO!!!!!! I can just imagine some girl taking her date home to meet the folks....."Mom, Dad, this is Scott. He's a butt-double. A hinder doppelganger. Mom? Dad? Are you guys okay?" __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

03-27-2002, 07:21 PM	#76
Tanoliel Eccentric Chocolate Crow Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Emerald City--Seattle, WA Posts: 1,861	I agree entirely, Rosie. And as for Arwen...she wasn't anywhere near the Ford in the books! sigh Oh well. I'm sure she won't show up in Cirith Ungol. And I shall be severely disappointed and very angry if they don't have Sam's song.... Nyat, ya kashka. Tano __________________ Wisdom for Short Attention Spans...Ozy and Millie. It rocks. Food Of The Gods: 3,7-dihydro-3,7-dimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione Feed Me.... Another Online Dwelling Place... "All right, I confess. It is my intention to comandeer a ship, pick up a crew in Tortuga, to rape, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out." -Captain Jack Sparrow "The trouble with unknown enemies is that they are so difficult to identify." -Amelia Peabody Emerson "Most people obey the orders of someone who is pointing a gun at their head." -A.P. Emerson

03-27-2002, 10:44 PM	#77
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	tano, why are you a cat? a BUTT-DOUBLE!!!! teeheeheeheeheee anyway, in the not-very-good movie A Knight's Tale the minstrel dude was naked in his first scene and it had about 10 seconds with the lower left-hand corner filled with his butt, and that movie was only PG13. __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

03-27-2002, 10:54 PM	#78
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	His name was Chaucer (and he was a real person, but I don't think those events happened to him)...and yeah, but the violence in A Knight's Tale wasn't really as 'graphic' as LOTR's. Y'know, when they come out of Moria and are all covered in black stuff? Orc blood...yuuup. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-27-2002, 11:06 PM	#79
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	true, but....oh, what's the use, i'm fighting a losing battle. sorry i forgot his name, i only saw the bloody movie once! sorry for getting annoyed, i'm in a pissy mood for no reason at all except that all my summer camp friends except Menelvagor are going to the same camp session as me and Menelvagor is the only one of my camp friends to post on Entmoot (Daughter of Elros would but she is having posting problems)...and that was the rambling of an insane HAMSTER (lol Menelvagor). that makes that statement fully true. __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

03-27-2002, 11:07 PM	#80
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	i'm rambling and i know it, so i'm going to sit down in this corner over here and shut up, except to say that they BETTER put the song in cuz if they don't, i'm going to be applying Sting to Peter Jackson's skull... __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

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