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Old 01-25-2005, 04:37 PM   #61
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I never actually got through the Hobbit... Is he your favourite then?
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Old 01-25-2005, 04:45 PM   #62
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Ellie?! You don't have read The Hobbit?

Smaug is of course not cooler than Glaurung. That would been like saying that young whippersnapper Gwaihir is cooler than myself
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Old 01-25-2005, 04:46 PM   #63
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I never actually got through the Hobbit... Is he your favourite then?
Nope, not my fav....I just remember that I believe he is described as being red.
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Old 01-25-2005, 04:48 PM   #64
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I never actually got through the Hobbit...


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Gah!

LM... you... you... you never read... 'The Hobbit'!?!?!???
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Old 01-25-2005, 04:55 PM   #65
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Gah!

LM... you... you... you never read... 'The Hobbit'!?!?!???
Yeesh. You okay there, Val? Pytt?

Well... I read it. Sort of. In spurts and horribly out of order. I didn't like it very much. I read the first 50+ pages and then quit. And then realised I had to keep going, and just started reading it randomly.

I've pretty much read all of it... but I read LotR first, and IMO, the Hobbit simply can't compare. I think I know all of it, just not details such as Thranduil was blonde and Smaug red. Go figure.

Didn't I mention that I hate Hobbits?

And I don't particularly like Dwarves either...
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Old 01-25-2005, 05:00 PM   #66
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Yeah, I am ok. in a way... But.. No, I have to go for some shock treatment..
I mean, The Hobbit is really a lovely book. You have at least enough self respect to read it, partly at least...
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Yeesh. You okay there, Val? Pytt?

Well... I read it. Sort of. In spurts and horribly out of order. I didn't like it very much. I read the first 50+ pages and then quit. And then realised I had to keep going, and just started reading it randomly.

I've pretty much read all of it... but I read LotR first, and IMO, the Hobbit simply can't compare. I think I know all of it, just not details such as Thranduil was blonde and Smaug red. Go figure.

Didn't I mention that I hate Hobbits?

And I don't particularly like Dwarves either...
Gah... and double-gah!!!

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Old 01-25-2005, 05:10 PM   #68
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in the cartoon version of the Hobbit (where he looks like a cross between a fish and a cat) hes red isn't he?
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Old 01-25-2005, 05:10 PM   #69
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I don't like the Hobbit.

I shall scream it to the world! I hate Hobbits! I don't like Dwarves! I am simply one of the oddest Tolkien fans you'll find! Especially since I can say that in Quenya: Nevenye Periandi. Umin melë Naucor! hm... I think that's right...

No Hobbits in the Silm. Anyone still wonder why it's my favourite? No Hobbits and tons and tons of Elves.

But yes, Pytt. I had to read it in order to understand what was happening. After reading LotR and the Silm though... It simply wasn't... heroic enough, I suppose...

I did enjoy looking for links to the First Age though.

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(where he looks like a cross between a fish and a cat)
beautiful picture...
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Old 01-25-2005, 05:11 PM   #70
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in the cartoon version of the Hobbit (where he looks like a cross between a fish and a cat) hes red isn't he?
Don't know. Couldn't bear to degrade self enough to watch that version.
(I'm a cartoon elitist )
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Old 01-25-2005, 05:16 PM   #71
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I was 5 when I watched it, OK?!? ITS NOT MY FAULT!!
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Old 01-25-2005, 05:19 PM   #72
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Is that the horrible cartoon where they have put in real pictures, and stuff? We saw it on school, but I have suppresed it *shrug*
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Old 01-26-2005, 02:39 AM   #73
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Nope, not my fav....I just remember that I believe he is described as being red.
Smaug was golden... Reddish gold however...
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Old 01-26-2005, 08:39 AM   #74
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yes, he is called "Smaug the Golden"
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Old 01-26-2005, 08:52 AM   #75
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Tolkien himself drew this picture of Smaug.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...kien_smaug.jpg
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From: http://www.tolkien.co.uk/frame.asp. Curse you frames!

Are Glaurung, Smaug, and Ancalagon thr Black the only dragons ever mentioned? I'll take any source - HoME, LotR, the Sil, etc.
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Old 01-26-2005, 12:52 PM   #76
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Scatha the Worm was mentioned in the LotR Appendices.
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Old 01-26-2005, 01:31 PM   #77
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Hm. Are worms and dragons always the same thing?
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I think so.
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Old 01-26-2005, 01:44 PM   #79
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Well. I suppose it makes sense. I can't think of anything else it could be... I mean, honestly...

Fear me! I am Scatha the Earthworm!
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And he said that the Rohirrim bought treasures from his hoard and I doubt earthworms have hoards of treasure.
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