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As for the real 'death' scenes, I think the problem was PJ's mixing of slow and regular motion. I didn't mind it but for some it was just too much.
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6 hourse and 19 min.!
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I knew that Gandalf was coming back when I read the book because he was on the cover of my ROTK. It doesn't effect the impact of his return.
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Says you.
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I could insert a longwinded comment focussing upon my sense of surprise versus yours, and which one is better, but I think this will suffice:
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Surprise is overrated.
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The Ballantine paperback that came out a couple years ago. It has a picture of Gandalf and Pippin riding to Minas Tirith. I think it's a Ted Naismith painting but I don't know for sure. It says "An epic motion picture trilogy coming soon from new line cinema" across the top. That's how I first heard of the movie.
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I respect his "opinion" on the movie. However - his interpretation of the book isn't an opinion though. He changed it to make it more palatible for non-LotR fans. I'll never accept the changes made to Flight to the Ford or to Pippin and Merry. I also had a problem with Gandalf -because he came off as a dunce too (trying to push the Gates of Moria inward - when he knew they pushed outward, bumbing his head repeatedly). I just don't think the movie lived up to LotR. The movie itself is good - but it's not great and if you compare it to LotR I think it's only fair. It has a lot of action. Action after action sequence. The Black Riders - instead of relying on their ability to use fear against people, they were turned into action charaters. What was the deal with the Black Rider chopping off the hobbit's head on the way to the Shire? And I actually think he did Sam pretty well. I think that Sam should have come off more that he worked for Frodo though. As I said from December to March - the movie was a sell out to LotR fans. Except for the scenerary - the rest had a lot to be desired. The battle scenes were good - but hardly any of them happened. He had to increase the battle scenes a 100 fold, whereas the excitement and tension builds up over time in the books. The movie was one chase scene after another. One of my friends, who hadn't read the book, compared it to Fast and Furious.
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JD, you must have known that the movie would come up lacking. It's an adaption for eru's sake, NOT the real McCoy. If you're gonna hate it, hate it for more valid reasons. Hate it, cos it's a terrible movie, NOT a terrible adaption - LOTR and all that hype aside. Still, it's not as terrible as Dungeons and Dragons...
Now, where's a place I can go, so I can practice what I preach?
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I was expecting a little bit closer to the book considering how much Jackson went on and on about how it was going to stay faithful to the book. Of course I expected some changes. There are things that I would have left out too - such as Tom Bombadil. Also - having Arwen in Glorfindel's place at the Ford was fine - but she didn't have to diminish Aragorn and take ALL of Frodo's best lines. Not to mention that some of the best lines in the book were left out in that scene. I don't think it's a terrible movie. I don't think it's a great movie - as LotR or standing alone. And I'm sorry - but watching Pippin and Merry is just painful. I really wish DVDs allowed me to cut out characters.
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Oh, and I was bloody dragged to the D & D feature. Argh! As if I'd waste my money on garbage like that!
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The thing is - I still plan on seeing Two Towers at 12:00am on December 18th (my sister's b-day). And I still plan on getting the DVD that comes out this week and the DVD Boxed Set that comes out in November.
I'm just going to try not expecting too much from The Two Towers. Maybe that'll help me have less of a negative reaction to it once it comes out. Trying to keep an open mind now that I've seen Fellowship - but it's hard. BTW BoP - my favorite musical score in the movie - and one of the few I actually remember - is during the scene where they do the fly in over and under Isengard. That's still my favorite scene in terms of camera shot as well.
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I think that Gandalf in the trailer is wrong for people who havn't read the book, but for me, I loved seeing Gandalf the White. I admit, when reading the book for the first time that I skipped ahead to check if he lived!
I loved LOTR movie, but I'm not sure if it's the best movie I've seen, I'll have to wait till December 2003 to judge that. I do think there were some things done wrong in the movie, but they have already been mentioned. But I respect people's opinions who don't like the movie - if they have valid reason. We don't have to praise him with great praise just because he did this movie.
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