05-05-2006, 11:57 AM | #61 | |
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Hey guys, thought you'd be interested in this:
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So, are we just playing our part in a propaganda war to establish legitimacy and passive acceptance of aggression towards Iran? |
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06-02-2006, 11:16 AM | #63 |
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There are times you frighten me with your statements.
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06-02-2006, 06:02 PM | #64 |
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but you know Gaffer...I'm not sure. Rice is a pretty (what a complimentary pun) hands on person, she doesn't mince words too much. Who knows what Ahmadinijead's precise quote was, it may be what YOU yourself quote, or it could be Iran saying that he was misquoted, to cover up a boo boo on their part.
What we know is that Militant Islamists want, and have wanted Israel "out" "dead" "anything but here" for quite a long time. It doesnt and won't help Iran to say, as they develop "Nucular" power, to say it's for "Energy efficiency", especially when they weren't complying with the UN or US.
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Also, President Ahmadinejad has said this on more than one occasion. He said at an anti-Zionism conference that Israel was "a tumor", "a rotten and dried-up tree which will be destroyed by one storm".
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Leif, your sarcasm can is really convincing... CNN is the Bible of Liberal Television. Thats why so many people accuse Fox of bieng "right-wing" biased, because the change from CNN to Fox is so drastic ...
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I'm Republican, and I've regularly checked CNN for a long time. I've found that it generally does give a fair hearing to the conservative cause. This is very different from BBC, which for the most part doesn't mention successes our troops have against the insurgency, almost never presents a good picture of President Bush, and only brings up Christian American conservatives to give them a punch in the nose.
CNN reports Iraq successes as well as defeats and gives a pretty detailed account of the evidence the Bush Administration raises to argue its position on various issues. For example, let's compare this BBC article with this CNN article. CNN gives a pretty decent hearing to Bush's arguments and shows the response they make to the accusation of manipulating politics for voting purposes. BBC does not present any of their responses.
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IMO, forget comparing the BBC. Compare with ABC, NBC, FOX...
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CNN- apart from their total cheerleading for the Iraq War? Quote:
Uh, what is it that they had? Would that be, Nothing? |
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And note that Memri is a right-wing Israeli organisation. Ahmadinejad is certainly an anti-Semite and a Holocaust denier, but his official position is that a government should be established by a free vote among the legitimate inhabitants of Palestine- Muslims, Christians and Jews. The kicker is that "legitimate" is defined to include all the Palestinians (and their descendants) who were expelled/fled from Israel, and exclude all the Jews who came as part of the modern Zionist movement, who should go back where they came from. |
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Several governments have condemned Ahmadinejad's "Israel must be wiped off the face of the map," comment, many of the most large and reliable news sites have all translated it in the way the governments did, and Ahmadinejad himself has never objected to their interpretation of what he meant. Instead, he has simply reaffirmed those words with statements given in other meetings, as I already pointed out.
The evidence that this isn't a mistranslation of what he was saying is overwhelming.
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Riiiight, so should he ring you up and say, sorry guys you got me all wrong?
Clearly the man is an opportunist out to paint himself as the poster boy for the domestic knee-jerk audience. A bit like Bush really. Except that, unlike Bush, Ahmedinejad has to contend with serious opposition within his own power structure. Hence, again, the posturing. |
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Which would precisely serve his purposes. (And he might be right.)
So, he gets to paint himself as the righteous wronged, our great leaders get to paint themselves as standing up to a looney. Nice little arrangement. And who's swallowing this facile charade hook, line and sinker? Last edited by The Gaffer : 06-05-2006 at 04:27 PM. |
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There is nothing charade-like about Iran's development of nuclear technology, funding of terrorism, and spreading of radicalism.
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