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12-04-2002, 01:37 AM | #61 |
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I suspect the necklace Arwen gives him is the "Elfstone" in the movie... That's why Galadriel says something like, "I can't give you a greater gift than this," and touches it.
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12-04-2002, 05:10 AM | #62 | |
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Stupid director, thinking he knows what's what. Why can't film-makers accept that what gets into a finished novel is all important. You can't much without losing something substantial and you can't cut anything without losing something.
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12-04-2002, 10:58 AM | #63 | ||
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Still plenty of room for another version in the future though, although of course you'll then get the stupid situation where people would watch a more book-faithful version and cry out: 'That's not how it happened! In the film....' etc. It's enough to make you cry |
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12-04-2002, 02:44 PM | #64 |
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Another thing. Whenever frodo is hurt, he always makes these weird noises I doubt anyone who is hurt would make.
*I still like the movie*
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12-04-2002, 03:03 PM | #65 |
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I always thought the whitish necklace was an emblem of her immortality, which she was giving up for Aragorn - not the Elfstone, which is large and green. Oh well..
I think that there is a flash of green at Aragorn's neck that might have been this stone... Also... I hope they don't axe the restoration of the White Tree to Gondor from the ROTF... that would make the films decidedly anti-botanical.... |
12-04-2002, 03:12 PM | #66 |
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Actually even Tolkien made a few mistakes with the Elfstone.
Or rather, with both Elfstones. Mainly in that he gave the lesser one to Sam at the end, which has been pointed out would be far too great, (and also inappropriate) for Sam. No actual Elfstone - note how people refer to him as Estel as his 'elvish' name - mucho 'puns' on the word hope etc in the trailers. So I'd reckon the elfstones are out, or shifted to this weird-ass thing of Arwen's, which kind of implies the way to kill elves is to run around stealing their jewelry. Now I understand what the Dwarves were up to in Thingol's halls when they nabbed the nauglamir I think the real reason Aragorn said what he did 'You cannot give me this!' is because it's girl's jewelry and no-one would take him seriously if he wore it (which I think was part of Arwen's ploy - make him look unmacho so no-one else would fancy him) |
12-04-2002, 04:19 PM | #67 | |
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I don't recall any weird noises. I've taken care of severely wounded people, and one does make groans, etc. when it hurts. Strange but true. |
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12-04-2002, 10:20 PM | #68 | ||
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I found the wierd noises irritating too! Example, flight to the ford... Frodo's having some kind of asthma attack instead of defying the Nazguls (by himself.)
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12-05-2002, 02:58 AM | #69 | |
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12-05-2002, 03:05 AM | #70 |
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He did? Ooh, I love it already.
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12-05-2002, 01:28 PM | #71 | ||
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What's "Return to Middle-earth" ?
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12-05-2002, 02:00 PM | #72 | |
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Pretty interesting all around. I'll just need to get better at disassociating the book and the movie.
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12-06-2002, 01:41 AM | #73 | ||
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You were clear Cirdan, I just thought you said you "read" it, for some reason. Thanks for the further clarification!
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12-17-2002, 01:28 PM | #74 | |
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I've found another annoying thing!
when Gandalf arrives in the Shire and tells Frodo about 'Bilbo's incident with the dragon' he says: Quote:
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12-17-2002, 07:37 PM | #75 |
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"feels jipped coz here in australia they squished return to middle earth into a half hr slot at 11pm*
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12-17-2002, 10:19 PM | #76 |
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I will not list all my complaints because if I had done so, the site would have been disfunctioning because of the overload of data.
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12-18-2002, 01:28 AM | #77 | |
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01-05-2003, 03:17 AM | #78 | |
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When people talk about that, that I find most annoying. Don't worry I won't start another Balrog & wings thing, that is unless you want me to /me grins evilly |
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01-05-2003, 04:26 PM | #80 |
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I think i spelled it right. i liked him. i like all elves tho, so pay me no heed. i didnt mean that literally. anyway. i liked tom bombadil and goldberry and old man willow i think he was in those books, hard to tell when u read as much as i do I hated that they made Faramir look so mean and that they killed Haldir. Oh well. |
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