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considering the subject matter however... it is kind of funny that it would be labelled as "gratuitous"
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Yes, if it is R16, you can't take kids with you. I think you can take under-agers with parents consent, but not children. I find it ironic, since it's usually the OTHER way 'round - they're usually uptight about 'gratuitous violence'. Heh.
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I have seen it. I need time to process it though, before I post my thoughts. I can tell you this much: if I had a child, I damned well wouldn't take it to see this.
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So will this take pink eggs and purple bunnies out of Easter?
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did anyone say when the left the movie:
"what a terrible ending... i kept thinking the apostles would come back and save him"
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*notes line*
I'll use that one when I've seen it.
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I heard a discussion in the radio this morning about the movie.
A professor for Christian History was talking about the murder of Jesus. He said that the opinion today, agreed by most professors (not necessarily Jewish), about the murder is that the jews did tell the Romans about Jesus but did not want him to be crusified. Quote:
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I also don't know anything about the New Testament except that it is the book of christianity, with the Bible. I know there are stories there about hell and heaven, which can't be found in the Bible. |
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You know, I would probably not remember all that - unless I'd read it myself (which is possible of course, I've just never saw the New Testament in any book store I've ever been in, so I think I would have to read it in English, and buy it in a foreign English-speaking country, and that would probably be hard, wouldn't it?). But thank you! I'd try to rmemeber as much as I can of that. I don't get one thing - what do Christians believe in? Except god, that is; about what would happen. We (jews) believe the Messiah will come, and in that day all the 'bad' people would be punished. And then - 'the end of the days' (as I see in my dictionary) - where the world will be pure good. (from the religious view, not mine; I don't really believe that) So if Jesus is the Messiah - shouldn't all that be done already? |
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02-25-2004, 05:09 PM | #70 |
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To understand the full impact of Jesus' and death, you have to understand Jewish thinking and the social structure of the time. Jesus rode in on a donkey which then was considered a luxury item and only something a king would ride upon. The palm branches and the shouting of "Hosanna" that was the symbol and the battle cry of the zelots. When he came into Jerusalam with that kind of the welcoming nautrally that made the high priests nervous because it threatened the very structure of power that had been in place at that particular moment. The high priests had wanted to kill him at various times. Scripture makes that very clear.
John 5:18 18 For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. In end it was only a handful of Jews that wanted Jesus dead, but the Jews could not carry it out because Rome was in control, therefore the High Priests had to go through Roman officials.
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There's an online Bible here. Impossible to read cover to cover from a screen, but good for reference if you know what book you're looking for. (Revelations is about Jesus' return.)
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Ok - this is my translation to what written in the paper today, in a column:
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basically death isn't natural or part of God's plan...it is a result of Adam a d Eve chosing not o follow God's law...in order to save us and bring us back to Him, God Himself had to go through the unnatrual process of death and go back to HEaven. |
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Radagast, I would agree with you in a general sense regarding anti-semitism, in that Gibson seems to place the blame squarely on the jews, taking it away from the Romans. The proconsul of the region is depicted in the movie as benevolent, when in actual fact, historical evidence suggests that he was anything but.
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Saw it a few days back and i thought it was awesome, it certainly makes you respect the man a bit more and the casting was awesome, Peter was awesome ****ing them roman scum over with his bare hands WOOOO!... some damn old people wouldnt shuttup behind me, at the start it was "yeah" "mmmm" to everything jesus said, then as soon as Jesus was caught (about 5 minutes in) the crying started and went all the way through until there were the pictures of him just hanging on the cross then there crying was mixed with "WOW" i was waiting for the "lets hear it for JESUS!!!" to start overall though thought it was a good movie, im just lucky it was the third showing and not the first couldnt stand all the wows
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I just read this article and I think that it's a good thing to read if you're going to go see it:
Eyes Wide Open, Mind Fully Enganged: Having Passion about "The Passion"
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I have just viewed the movie.
I think the movie did an excellent portrayal of the suffering that Jesus suffered during the hours leading up to his crucifixion. I would give the film a 3 to 3-1/2 stars out of four. The film is about 2 hours, 7 minutes but I did not realize the time pass. The film was entirely in foreign languages (I think Aramaic and Latin ) with subtitling. I do not think that the film is anti-semetic. There were a wide spectrum of people used in the film: pretty, average, ugly, clean, bad teeth, good teeth, well dressed, poorly dressed, and people that probably could have used a bath. Basically what one might expect to find of people in ancient roman times. The people in the upper strata of society looked better (in general) than the commoners. I do not know about big noses, that I have heard mentioned on radio, since to me there was a variety of faces with a variety of noses. None of the noses appeared to be what I would consider big. There were some areas where poetic licsense was used, but I think the movie did a good job in portraying events from the bible. Some scenes I did not quite understand. The visual aspect and presentation of the film is excellent. There was a good use of flashbacks in the film without losing any tempo. I am paraphrasing here, but The line about "Jesus' blood being on us and our children" was not in the film. (At least it was not subtitled. If it was spoken in a foreign language, I did not understand it.) I heard this mentioned on the radio, so I am wondering if this was edited out of the film I saw. (or may be I missed the text). The only people that were portrayed as villians were some of the Jewish leaders, most of the Jewish soldiers that captured Jesus, most of the Roman soldiers, one of the condemned men crucified with Jesus, and Pontius Pilate. I would have like the film better if it focused some more on the resurection of Jesus, but since the film is titled "Passion" I can live with what was covered This film is not for anyone squeemish about blood. There is plenty of blood shown in this movie. I could hear people sobbing in the theatre. There were many scenes that I was wincing at the savage treatment shown to Jesus. At a few points my eyes watered up. I am a Christian, so you may take my opinion for what it is worth.
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I don't think it's entirely anti-semitic, but I do think it places WAY too much blame at the feet of the jews. It makes the Romans (Gentiles or whatever) look positively guilt-free (which we know is not the case).
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