12-16-2004, 06:18 AM | #61 |
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Well.. except that apparantly no one can create independant beings with rational thought except Eru...
He might have animated Melkor's lust, becasue it was part of the music... But I don't see Morgoth creating something more powerful than him, at least not purposefully.
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12-19-2004, 09:03 PM | #64 |
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Yep. The dwarves were Automatons before they were invested by Eru....
Which incidentally is the only (recorded) instance of Eru manifesting personally in any form or fashion in Arda after it's creation... (That I can recall). Any other time (usually Manwe) it's more like internal consultation and prayer... Though there is the incident about the downfall of Numenor, when the valar lay down their lordship for a time and Eru takes the wheel... Still it's pretty significant that Eru appeared at the begining of the only other free "race" in Arda...
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12-25-2004, 09:50 AM | #65 |
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That's actually true, I haven't thought of that. Though I must say it is a pretty important event to attend, so it makes sence.
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I think that maybe either Eonwe or Osse were the strongest...
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I'd like to know about were the mirar came from
P.S. Haveing a little bit of troble with the 90 second rule...
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The maiar? They are the same origin as the Valar, but have minor strenght and power. read the Silmarillion
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