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02-15-2004, 11:39 PM | #61 | |
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Cut Eowyn? Why? Without her, Legolas would most likely kill the Witch King. (heaven forbid!) But then again he is a man...at least Arwen didn't do it! And who would marry Faramir? Would Grima be going after Arwen or...... Eomer Merry also wouldn't meet up with Pippin. Iboen, Arwen fancied Aragorn too..... I would probably say......the that random elf guy.....(you can't cut anymore out!please! except maybe Arwen in FotR)
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02-16-2004, 11:21 AM | #62 |
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The dead. If done right, the movie didn't need to show them, just show the Gray Company (who should have been their ) and somehow show that invisible people are walking behind them. Then have those guys from Lebbinin (bad spelling, I know) come to the Pelinor like in the book. Having the dead kill everyone easily was so anti-climactic.
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02-16-2004, 11:26 AM | #63 |
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I think that they needed to include the dead, but I agree that they did it wrong. The Grey Company should have been with them, but I can understand why they cut them. It would have been to much hassle to introduce new characters, and maybe too confusing to those who have never touched the books. Also they should have changed the colour of the dead. I forgot where I read it, but I'm sure they shouldn't be bright green!! And it did seem somewhat anti-climatic. Again they probably did it to keep the right pace of the movie, but in my mind the Dead didn't just sweep over Sauron's Army killing them instantly (or what seemed like instanly).
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02-16-2004, 01:27 PM | #64 | |
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02-17-2004, 12:11 AM | #65 |
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Well i suppose you could use his head to wipe the floor with…
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02-26-2004, 08:52 PM | #66 |
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sorry,
i don't think anyone should have been cut, they were all characters which helped the plot along in some way, and people like tom bombadil, Radagast the Brown, Glorfindel and Gildor, to name but a few, are sorely missed |
02-26-2004, 09:00 PM | #67 | ||
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Sadly, even Arwen shouldn't be cut. But we could do away with Lurtz or another made-up character as ethuiliel suggested.
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02-26-2004, 09:02 PM | #68 |
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i am speaking only of those characters that appear in the books...
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02-27-2004, 04:07 AM | #69 | ||
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Oh, sorry Chrys. In that case, I vote for Gothmog (aka sponge head orc). However much I dislike Arwen's portayal in the movie, her presence is important (but not at that certain infamous scene that will not be named. )
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02-27-2004, 06:05 PM | #70 | |
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02-27-2004, 06:10 PM | #71 |
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i cant forget denethor
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02-27-2004, 09:17 PM | #72 |
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Do you realize just how many characters were cut from the story in making the movies? There are enough cut characters to create a sizable army, and since most of the characters who were cut are among the more elite characters from Middle Earth it would be a really effective army too. I think they should have left characters in the scenes they were supposed to be in, and not added un-nessecary characters where they weren't needed. But really, if they cut any other character who was originally in the story it would leave some definite gaps in the plot line.
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02-29-2004, 01:59 PM | #73 |
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Not someone, a group. The whole Warg scene in TTT. Annoyed me greatly.
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03-03-2004, 02:05 AM | #74 |
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NOBODY!!!
They already cut out enough characters as it already was.
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03-03-2004, 01:12 PM | #75 |
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I know this is a little off-topic... but the other day I was looking for a potato to make chips and the one I pulled out of the bag looked exactly like the sponge headed orc.... I sat for about 10 minutes with my pirate DVD on pause comparing the two... again he should have definatly been cut out!
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03-04-2004, 03:57 AM | #76 |
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I wonder if he's related to Mr potato Head from toy Story…
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03-04-2004, 11:14 AM | #77 | |
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Well then, cut PJ
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03-04-2004, 06:23 PM | #79 |
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it wouldnt be good to cut out anybody actually .accept the made up characters like lurtz spongehead orc and the other ones.
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03-04-2004, 07:08 PM | #80 |
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'Spongehead Orc'
AKA Gothmog, the lieutenant of Minas Morgul isn't actualy a made up character he is in the books, although hes mentioned only once, as rallying troops after the fall of the witch king, BUT he isnt referred to as an orc in the books, tolkien doesn't specify what race he is, although most people believe he was a Black Numenorean, like the Mouth of Sauron (who i was extremely disappointed not to see in the film ) |
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