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Old 05-25-2004, 04:16 PM   #61
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.”
As an adjective American is:
1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
As a noun American is:
A native or inhabitant of America.
A citizen of the United States.

Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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Old 05-25-2004, 04:21 PM   #62
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I'll miss you Ruinel ...but I probably would have done the same thing SGH did. Shoot! What's she supposed to do? She's damned if she enforces the rules, and damned if she doesn't. Ru, you had total control over this situation by controlling yourself! I don't want to rain on your parade or anything though! And I will miss you. Maybe, the situation could be reconsidered .........if you put yourself in SGH place for awhile, and thought about this realistically? Rules are there for a reason, they really do make things go smoothly.
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Old 05-25-2004, 05:31 PM   #63
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whoa alot can happen when you dont pay attention....

just read the 3 or so pages and it sounds ocmpicated i think il watch froma safe distance. stil tryin to decide whether it was really wortha permanent ban. think it might have been a bit harsh. ah well.
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Old 05-25-2004, 05:47 PM   #64
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it sounds ocmpicated
That was uncalled for.
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Old 05-25-2004, 06:34 PM   #65
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Old 05-25-2004, 09:41 PM   #66
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Sorry to have go Ru...it was fun pming you, and thank you very much for the anti virus program, it works wonderfully....
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Old 05-25-2004, 10:02 PM   #67
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hey why arent we protesting? Runiel's banning for life was a bit harsh!!
maybe like 2 weks would have been sufficient.
ill miss reading your funny posts Runiel even though i never really did post regularly with you.
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Old 05-25-2004, 10:04 PM   #68
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hey why arent we protesting? Runiel's banning for life was a bit harsh!!
maybe like 2 weks would have been sufficient.
ill miss reading your funny posts Runiel even though i never really did post regularly with you.
Why was it too harsh? She couldn't even handle a 2 day ban.
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Old 05-25-2004, 10:09 PM   #69
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well i dont understand why seh was banned in the first place, her little comment in the Abuse of Soldiers thread was meant ot be sarcastic and not taken seriously, if this is why she was banned in the first place it seems to harsh.
and the hole banning issue seems to be very shady. as the public of entmoot we have a right to know why are dearly loved fellow mooter was banned! (or maybe we dont, but it sounded like Runiel wanted us to know)
and going from 2 days to 5 days to LIFE seems a bit harsh to me, but i dont know the whole situation so i should prolly shut up now.
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Old 05-25-2004, 10:13 PM   #70
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I know this is all very stressful to the younger and the less experienced, never the less, this old man finds many of the highly exagerated reactions (here, and all around on the internet) maladaptive.
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Old 05-25-2004, 10:16 PM   #71
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well i dont understand why seh was banned in the first place, her little comment in the Abuse of Soldiers thread was meant ot be sarcastic and not taken seriously, if this is why she was banned in the first place it seems to harsh.
and the hole banning issue seems to be very shady. as the public of entmoot we have a right to know why are dearly loved fellow mooter was banned! (or maybe we dont, but it sounded like Runiel wanted us to know)
and going from 2 days to 5 days to LIFE seems a bit harsh to me, but i dont know the whole situation so i should prolly shut up now.
Your exactly right. You don't understand. You do not know the half of it, so why don't you and everyone else just be quiet. You haven't the faintest idea what happened.
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Old 05-25-2004, 10:27 PM   #72
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maladaptive?? i dont even know what that means.
i see your point SGH. but also, for all us restless younger folk who dont understand who Runiel was banned its hard to just sit back and watch her go. (does that sound melodramatic)
SGH you did what you felt was neccesary in the situation and i respect your decision. but not telling the whole story and only hearing bits and peices of it from other ppl is makign it a bigger deal and making it seem shady, like something not good happened. well li mean its never good when someone is banned... okay im just going to shut up. (im sure im not helping the situation)

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Old 05-25-2004, 10:34 PM   #73
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Lol, Eowyn14

Well, I think SGH, bieng someone who knew Ruinel herself, doesnt want to treat this ban like she's wanted it all along. She's cut Ruinel some slack before, wanting to give her chances. It wouldnt seem proper just blurting it all out proudly
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Old 05-25-2004, 11:15 PM   #74
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By the way, why was Blackboar banned? Can't seem to remember what she did...
IIRC, she and a friend (V-something or other) pretended that she was dead.
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Old 05-25-2004, 11:18 PM   #75
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IIRC, she and a friend (V-something or other) pretended that she was dead.
Yeah. She posted that pic of that awful car crash.
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Old 05-25-2004, 11:35 PM   #76
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In Praise of Folly

I have to say that it is sad when people are banned from a forum, I have been there and done that myself. It sucks because in principle you are not allowed to post nor defend yourself from what people post about you. I have always felt that the admins who do such things should have the proper perspective and not take shots at the people who are banned.
After what I have seen from the attitude and way in which SGH handled the situation, I find no fault in her.

The following is an example of a truly pathetic admin from another forum, that posted somethings after I was banned from it:
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Maedrhos was a jerk plain and simple. While he had a passion for the Silmarillion (and who doesn't?), he was really looking for an arguement deep down. His posts were all fine and dandy, but he is one of those people who get some sort of sick pleasure out of having a long-winded raging "debate" where the only sentiment is flaming the other person. The guy is a flamer.
While his Silmarillion discussions might have been a great addition, I think holding them with even tempered folks is a better thing in the long run. We have and will talk about the Sil, regardless of whether he is around or not.
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EBM I've deleted the main argumentive threads from Gaedhros(sp.)You really didn't miss anything except one rude guy hurting himself.
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P.S. The Moron admin and I met in another forum and of course I ridiculed him to the death. Cowards find it easy to speak when you can't answer back.
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.”
As an adjective American is:
1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
As a noun American is:
A native or inhabitant of America.
A citizen of the United States.

Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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Good Post!

I'm quite appalled at the accusations thrown at SGH for doing her job...
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Old 05-26-2004, 12:29 AM   #78
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sorry to see you go ruinel, thats one less person who will bash canada, ill miss that (no sarcasm intended)

i think SGH was doing her job and while we all see it as unfair and unjust it has to be done, i actually like that this board is moderated with a bit more effort and its usually SGH doing most of it, if you have a job you have to do it and it was sad to see ruinel go but that is what happens

also did anyone notice hobbit posting as capatain tarpols
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Yes gimli, I saw Tristan/CT and also Hobbit.

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Old 05-26-2004, 06:18 AM   #80
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Your exactly right. You don't understand. You do not know the half of it, so why don't you and everyone else just be quiet. You haven't the faintest idea what happened.
yeah shut the **** up people, what do you think this i, a message board
ahhh such a great thread, people posting themselves into a nice hole of rudeness and childishness (and should i mention sarcasm, i think that SGH in her bitterness has worn out the rolleyes smilie), and now i can throw rocks at them, goody
SGH we may all be ignorant little shits when it comes to you and Ruinel, but we can all see the spitefullness in your posts it sounds to me that you think everyone should just hate Ruinel instantly because *shock, horror* she broke the rules , might i suggest burning Artanis at the stake for her ultimate display of herecy, talking for her friend
it sounds to me that what Ruinel had to say was not for your own personal benefit, but also for the many (and it does seem astonishingly large) friends she has made here, im sure if she only wanted to talk to you she would email you...
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Just another accusation posted without sticking to the facts.
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she criticised something ohhh sorry i didnt realise she was such an offender, that truly is disgusting, you were too leniant
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Well, if someone like Ruinel can get banned for life, all I can say is I must be in the wrong kind of place.

So long, folks, it's been good to knowya.

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i do actually remember talking to you in some religious forum, ta ta.
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