06-22-2004, 01:06 PM | #61 |
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when Frodo leaves Sam Merry and Pipin to go to Valinor
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07-07-2004, 07:53 AM | #62 |
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I have read most of Tolkien's books, and there are many tales that are tragic, however, for me the saddest part is in The Fellowship of the Ring, when Gandalf falls with the Balrog.
It is not just the event that is sad, many other tales are more tragic, it is Tolkien's building of the characters and their relationships and dependence on each other that makes this so sad. You know the characters so well, it is like you experienced the trauma yourself. This is directly related to the storytelling skills of the author.
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07-07-2004, 12:34 PM | #63 |
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1) The death of Boromir (hes the only one from the fellowship that died)
2) The death of Huan 3) the destruction of Gondolin |
08-13-2004, 10:49 AM | #64 | |
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08-19-2004, 01:07 PM | #66 |
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first time i reaf LoTR I cried when Shelob almost killed Frodo. i thought he was dead. i also find it very sad when Frodo leaves the three hobbits in grey havens
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11-29-2004, 11:38 PM | #67 | |
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I'd say the death of Finrod, for all the reasons SGH mentioned earlier:
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The second saddest would have to be a tie between practically everything else that ever happened in the Silmarillion. the whole thing is so depressing...
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11-30-2004, 12:11 AM | #68 |
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for me:
saddest parts in LOTR: -when sam thinks frodo is dead -when sam says "I'm back" -death of theoden saddest parts of Silm (i havent read it in awhile): -end of 'Turin Turambar' -when the Trees are destroyed -when the silmarils are regained, but in vain saddest parts of LOTR movies: -when they leave moria and think gandalf's dead -death of boromir -the end
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11-30-2004, 03:31 AM | #69 | |
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Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230 |
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11-30-2004, 08:42 AM | #70 |
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the saddest moment in tolkien is the Oath of Feanor, and the deeds which it caused, the kinslaying at Alqualonde especially
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11-30-2004, 03:30 PM | #73 |
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To me, one of the saddest moments in the Sil. was the last stand of Huor: the part where Huor tells Turgon: "This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death..."
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12-04-2004, 05:28 PM | #74 | |
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The first time I read it, I think the saddest moment was:
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But once I knew that Faramir wasn't dead, and didn't die, I think the saddest part was probably Theoden's death... or when Smeagol was completely taken ove by Gollum, or... or maybe "Well, I'm back"... just because that was the end.
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12-19-2004, 04:56 PM | #75 |
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Gandalf`s fall is a sad moment in the book.
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12-19-2004, 06:07 PM | #76 |
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I am much into Greek tragedy mode.
In LoTR, it is when Denethor after fighting Sauron, strategy to strategy, army to army, and even telepathicly will to will (with greater strength that the head of the istari) for all his life, falls to despair and breaks just before his bleloved nation and is victorious and restored, and his charge fulfilled. In SIL, it when Hurin, after bearing all torment for 28 years, finds out, never ther less, that Morgoth has still suceeded in using him as a tool.
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12-25-2004, 10:36 AM | #77 |
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- death of Beleg - when Eowyn tells Aragorn that she doesn't fear death, only a cage |
01-02-2005, 02:42 AM | #78 |
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Not wholly sad, but at least a little tug on the heartstrings: when Finduilas falls out of love with Gwindor and in love with Turin. I still stick with Beleg's death being absolutely the saddest.
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I am not sure that my answer is in the sense you mean, but for me it was Sam's words to close the tale proper. In the pre-Silmarillion et alia days, the story was truly done, though one did have the appendices...BUT THE STORY WAS OVER AND IT WAS TOO SHORT! I still get the feeling when concluding a re-read!
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"It must often be so, Sam, when things are in danger: some one has to give them up, lose them, so that others may keep them." That is so beautiful, just thinking about it sometimes brings tears to my eyes. *sniffle*
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