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a) does not address the real causes behind terrorism b) puts muslims of all kinds on the defensive, and thus unlikely to sympathize with anything further you might say If I said, "not all Entmooters are idiots, but nearly every idiot I've ever met has been at Entmoot", wouldn't you start wondering who I was talking about? And maybe even start thinking, "that jerk BJ, he thinks we are all idiots". If I felt like I must make that kind of statement, better not to generalize in any kind of way. Unless, of course, I don't particularly care one way or another about the people I am generalizing about.
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It reminds me of the interview with the CAIR spokesperson that Bill O'Reilly had on one morning, he tried to explain that Bush's use of "Fascist" was wrong, as if THAT was the issue to die for! Meanwhile he didn't say squat about the foiled plot, didn't condemn it, but he wants to reprimand Bush about a little phrasing? 1) That quote does not get spread around too much via mainstream media, so I'm not worried that Sayid in Detroit, who is a perfectly good fellow, is going to care what Bob out in the woods and far away from CNN said. 2) What is the solution to catching terrorists at airports, is it not to background people?
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Ahhh.
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Richard Reid, shoe bomber- Jamaican mother, white father- look at his picture, could be Italian Jose Padilla- Puerto Rican I (somewhat) agree on racial profiling- after all, when police started looking for the abortion bomber, they pretty well figured him for a white male. OTOH, if I was a young Middle-Eastern-looking-type who had been hauled out of the line for the fifteenth time while everybody else walked by, I might start having some violent feelings myself. It's been pointed out that one reason why there are no home-grown terrorists among American Muslims is that, to a much greater degree than in Europe , they have been accepted as just another group of immigrants like the Italians, Greeks, Poles etc before them. You might want to think twice before changing that. |
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Profiling involves much more than looking for a person carrying a Koran and wearing a towel on their head.
See I did think about it.
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But the real solution is addressing the root causes of terrorism. Stop supporting monarchies in the Middle East. Stop selling weapons to Israel. Spend more time developing the economies in the Middle East and less time either destroying them or just making a quick profit off of them.
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Quick stats about ourselves:
The Moots best day for people on line was most users ever online was 470, 07-17-2005 at 04:34 PM and we have 3,810 members. Compare that to some other board I visit: Most users ever online was 1,451, 8 July 2006 at 03:49 pm. Total Forum Membership: 17,130 registered members So you can see, we are (as the Geiko gekko says "family"). you never know when someone from the media might look at this.
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i'm really sorry Rex, that Muslims in general have to be painted this or that way because of some jerks, but I don't think it's evil to do some profiling.
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I would imagine some racial profiling is going on, to some extent...don't you think everyone who looks suspicious gets checked out? Isn't that what the airport checkers are paid to do?
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But for the moment it makes you feel good going after "them".
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Kinda like Elmur Phuud, huh?
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Hmm...IRex I think you've gotten a bit mixed up yourself...I thought you said we shouldn't go after people just because they look middle-eastern, and now you say we shouldn't go after them because of their religion? I think you might have stumbled on one of my points. Quote:
But not EVERYONE should be anti-Israel, and I feel that some countries no longer care about Israel demise. It WAS the British after all, who conquered the land that is Isreal/Palestine. They captured it from the Ottoman Empire. The U.N. (or League of Nations back then, I'm not sure...) gave that land to them because of their history with it. It infuriates me that Kofi Annan gets away with calling Israel's mistaken bombing of UN people in Lebanon "intentional", and yet President Bush is fried for calling terrorists "Islamo Fascists". "It's alright to be anti-israel, but don't you DARE call Terrorists 'Islamic Fascists'."
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