Of Turin Turambar - Page 4

FrodoFriend · 02-26-2003, 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by azalea
Maybe he became a jerk because he was brought up by Thingol!

What makes him a jerk? He obviously had a hard time of things (what with being cursed and all), but he generally did the best thing he could in every situation. It wasn't his fault everything went awry. Bah! Túrin has no flaws!

My favorite account of this tale is the Lay of the Children of Húrin from the Lays of Beleriand, even though it's a bit different from the final, canon version.

Lalaith · 02-26-2003, 01:30 PM

Yeah, now and then it occurs that somebody likes Turin. Thanks.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 02-26-2003, 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by Lalaith
Yeah, now and then it occurs that somebody likes Turin. Thanks.

Lalaith, here we can agree. I thought that Turin was a very powerful character, and his actions impacted the story to a tremendous degree and made it very exciting, but sad. The personality that Tolkien creates for Turin in amazing. He is one of those characters that a reader can have a love/hate relationship with.

Lalaith · 02-26-2003, 02:03 PM

Yeah, I read Turins story plenty times and every time I was like: Don't do that, don't do that. Go that way. Noooo, that's wrong.
I was always hoping that he would do the right thing but he didn't.
And my hate towards Morgoth grew and grew.

Lord Manafirogh · 02-26-2003, 04:46 PM

Turin is a good warrior. I like him. all though Hurin was said to be stronger.

***azalea*** · 02-27-2003, 03:14 PM

I was just joking about his being a jerk, but my feeling about him was similar to Lalaith's, as I said in an earlier post. He did not always do the right thing, although he COULD have and just chose not to. But I feel badly for him, cursed through no fault of his own.

Lalaith · 02-27-2003, 04:57 PM

Deep in his heart and sould he must have been suffering very much.

FrodoFriend · 02-28-2003, 07:46 AM

He was suffering enough on the outside too.

As for choosing the wrong thing . . . well, who hasn't at some time or other? I think this character trait only makes him all the more believable and sympathetic. For most people there is a time when they know one thing is right but they still do something else, out of fear or anger or whatever. It's something I recognize and sympathize with rather than disparage.

Lalaith · 03-01-2003, 09:29 AM

The Story of Turin is a good example for the What if questions.

02-26-2003, 01:30 PM	#62
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Yeah, now and then it occurs that somebody likes Turin. Thanks. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

02-26-2003, 02:03 PM	#64
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Yeah, I read Turins story plenty times and every time I was like: Don't do that, don't do that. Go that way. Noooo, that's wrong. I was always hoping that he would do the right thing but he didn't. And my hate towards Morgoth grew and grew. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

02-27-2003, 04:57 PM	#67
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Deep in his heart and sould he must have been suffering very much. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

02-28-2003, 07:46 AM	#68
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	He was suffering enough on the outside too. As for choosing the wrong thing . . . well, who hasn't at some time or other? I think this character trait only makes him all the more believable and sympathetic. For most people there is a time when they know one thing is right but they still do something else, out of fear or anger or whatever. It's something I recognize and sympathize with rather than disparage. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

03-01-2003, 09:29 AM	#69
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	The Story of Turin is a good example for the What if questions. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

02-26-2003, 04:46 PM	#65
Lord Manafirogh Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London Posts: 187	Turin is a good warrior. I like him. all though Hurin was said to be stronger.

02-27-2003, 03:14 PM	#66
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I was just joking about his being a jerk, but my feeling about him was similar to Lalaith's, as I said in an earlier post. He did not always do the right thing, although he COULD have and just chose not to. But I feel badly for him, cursed through no fault of his own.

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