Do you believe? - Page 4

Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn · 02-06-2003, 10:14 PM

wuts it called?

afro-elf · 02-06-2003, 10:17 PM

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What does it mean to be skeptical, or a skeptic? Some people believe that skepticism is denial or rejection of new ideas, or worse, they confuse "skeptic" with "cynic" and think that skeptics are a bunch of grumpy curmudgeons unwilling to accept any claim that challenges the status quo. Nothing could be further from the truth. Skepticism is a provisional approach to claims. It is the application of science to any and all ideas-no sacred cows allowed. In other words, skepticism is a method, not a position. Ideally skeptics do not go into an investigation closed to the possibility that a phenomenon might be real or that a claimant might be right. When we say we are "skeptical" we mean that we must see evidence before we believe.

Coney · 02-06-2003, 10:21 PM

Some info about the author and her books can be found here -

Vivienne Crowley

elvishfaerie3088 · 02-07-2003, 12:13 AM

what's it called? Just a warning it's kinda hard to pronounce for so,anyhow it's called, taylrinmater, you won't find it in any book, it is a very very old type of magick. You won't find it on the net either. It comes only to a select few, it well it kinda chooses you, you have no choice over it, it does what it wields you to do. There's more about it too but i think i have to go so i'll post later.

Laurelyn · 02-07-2003, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by Erawyn
When I saw the title of this thread Cher was the first thing to come to mind...

You too? Thank goodness I'm not the only one.

I believe in magic, yes, and frankly I don't care whether you say it magic or magick just so long as you don't overpronounce the K like some people to make it explicitly obvious that it's there.
I've always been interested in Wiccan stuff. It's the kind of religion that I might actually like to be a part of.
Me, music is magic and so are days, any one out of 365, and so are people and smiles and wonder.

Insidious Rex · 02-07-2003, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Laurelyn
Originally Originally posted by Erawyn
When I saw the title of this thread Cher was the first thing to come to mind...

You too? Thank goodness I'm not the only one.

Well I thought of The Loving Spoonful.

*all the teenagers look at each other funny* "Who??"

Spock · 02-07-2003, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by elvishfaerie3088
what's it called? Just a warning it's kinda hard to pronounce for so,anyhow it's called, taylrinmater, you won't find it in any book, it is a very very old type of magick. You won't find it on the net either. It comes only to a select few, it well it kinda chooses you, you have no choice over it, it does what it wields you to do. There's more about it too but i think i have to go so i'll post later.

AS one who has studied several forms of the old methods, I've never heard of it at all and I've done searching on three continents.
If you'd care to share I'd be more than willing to listen.

eowyngirl14 · 02-07-2003, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by Insidious Rex
Well I thought of The Loving Spoonful.

*all the teenagers look at each other funny* "Who??"

*looks around at the other teenagers* The loving who??? has Insidious Rex finally lost it?

Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn · 02-07-2003, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by eowyngirl14
*looks around at the other teenagers* The loving who??? has Insidious Rex finally lost it?

i dont know who they are either

Insidious Rex · 02-07-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by eowyngirl14
*looks around at the other teenagers* The loving who??? has Insidious Rex finally lost it?

*shaking my cane at the teenagers* oh yeah! well your parents know who they are! damn wipper snappers. now excuse me I have to go hunt a dinosaur for dinner.

Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn · 02-07-2003, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by Insidious Rex
*shaking my cane at the teenagers* oh yeah! well your parents know who they are! damn wipper snappers. now excuse me I have to go hunt a dinosaur for dinner.

so i guess the loving spponful is that old?

Insidious Rex · 02-07-2003, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn
so i guess the loving spponful is that old?

well they arent as old as the beatles or the rolling stones. and youve heard of them right?

eowyngirl14 · 02-07-2003, 04:03 PM

Rolling Stones? Are the from the stone age when they finally invented the wheel??

Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn · 02-07-2003, 04:13 PM

i like the beatles and the rolling stones!

Insidious Rex · 02-07-2003, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by eowyngirl14
Rolling Stones? Are the from the stone age when they finally invented the wheel??

*laugh* ok smarty. Yer lucky I cant see so good or else Id take my cane and.... uh now what was I saying? Damn memory...

Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn · 02-07-2003, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by Insidious Rex
*laugh* ok smarty. Yer lucky I cant see so good or else Id take my cane and.... uh now what was I saying? Damn memory...

im sure your not that old..tho it doesnt say on your profile

Insidious Rex · 02-07-2003, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn
im sure your not that old..tho it doesnt say on your profile

well from what I remember when yer 13 or 14 anyone who is over say 22 is like older then death. So yeah that would make me a good 10 years older then death.

Firekitten2006 · 02-07-2003, 06:26 PM

Loving Spoonfull? lol Dont think my mom would know what that is...unless its like Rock and stuff, otherwise she doesnt know

I would be glad to try and help with any questions about Wicca. I know some things, and it really irritates me when people give into stereotypes about Wiccan beliefs. I looked up alot about it in the past because for a little while I was seriously considering converting to it. They have some awesome beliefs! I still might one day...maybe when I dont plan on talking to anyone in my family ever again...lol

I would be glad to post the sites! Just to find them...lol

afro-elf · 02-07-2003, 06:46 PM

Insidiuos they where around a few years before I was born ,but I am aware of them.

Firekitten2006 · 02-07-2003, 07:04 PM

These are a few reliable sites.

Not exactly what I was looking for, but they follow the same pattern.

http://www.witchs-brew.com/wbrew.html
Good for meeting other Wiccans, very informative.

http://www.pagansunite.com/
VERY VERY correct site, TONS of info

http://www.witchvox.com/
My example of what Elvishfaerie probably found. NOT right. These NeoPagans as they call themselves are looked down upon. And as a warning, they wont let you use the back button to leave the site. *sigh* WHY PPL!!!

http://geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1517/index1.html
This is the closest thing I can find to one of the sites I was talking about. I cant find the other one, but this one really tells you the basic beliefs.

Some little quotes to back me up, and add to what has already been said.

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Wiccans all follow this basic tenant: Do whatever you want to do as long as you harm none. Wiccans also believe in the three fold law of return. This law simply states that anything you put out such as magic, you receive times three. Therefore, a Wiccan would never cast a negative spell, for if they did it would come back on them three times as strong.

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Because Wicca is a religion free of any central dogma, I can only speak in generalities about its beliefs. Wicca, like many religions, recognizes Deity as dual. It worships both the God and the Goddess. These deities are equals, loving and warm, not detached living in heaven but omnipresent throughout the universe. Wiccans do not believe in or worship Satan. They generally believe that all evil originates with human kind and is not the production of the devil. Many Wiccans believe in the doctrine of reincarnation. They believe that humans posses souls as do animals and elements. Wicca is a religion that utilizes magic and magical ritual. Much as Catholic priests use magical ritual to transform wine into the blood of Christ. Prayer is a form of magic used to commune with Deity. Magic is simply the use of naturally occurring energy to produce change either in one's self or the external world. There is nothing supernatural about magic. Wiccans believe in free will and that humans have full control of and responsibility for our lives. Our weaknesses and miss deeds are not blamed on some evil deity

Also, something I remember from one of the sites I used to have the addy to, people often connect Wicca with satanic beliefs because the God often is represented as a green man with horns. People believed that this resembled the Chritian Satan, hence why people believe Wiccans are of the Devil.

02-06-2003, 10:14 PM	#61
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02-06-2003, 10:21 PM	#63
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elvishfaerie3088 Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NO where and every where! Posts: 413	what's it called? Just a warning it's kinda hard to pronounce for so,anyhow it's called, taylrinmater, you won't find it in any book, it is a very very old type of magick. You won't find it on the net either. It comes only to a select few, it well it kinda chooses you, you have no choice over it, it does what it wields you to do. There's more about it too but i think i have to go so i'll post later. __________________ "This is the day you will all remember that you almost caught Captain Jack Sparrow" Elizabeth: "Will!" Will: "Elizabeth!" Jack: "Monkey!" "It's captain Jack Sparrow, captain..." "If you were waiting for the opportune moment that was it." Red coat, "Impersonating a judge." Jack: (Oh, ya that was fun look on his face) "Do us a favour...i know it's hard...but stay here and try not to do...anything...stupid." "Yes...but why is the rum gone?!" "WELL IT BLOODY IS NOW!" ~~Elvish Faerie~~

02-07-2003, 04:03 PM	#73
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02-07-2003, 04:13 PM	#74
Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn The Elven Queen Of All Pyros Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Im like a little bug stuck in the lamp...never going anywhere Posts: 795	i like the beatles and the rolling stones! __________________ Would you judge my future based on what i did in the past? Procrastinators Unite!!!.....tomorrrow.... Kids in backseats cause accidents...accidents in backseats cause kids As long as there are tests..there will be prayers in school

02-07-2003, 06:26 PM	#78
Firekitten2006 Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: the US of A! But I wish i was in austraila, never been, just think it would be a fun place to live :) Posts: 372	Loving Spoonfull? lol Dont think my mom would know what that is...unless its like Rock and stuff, otherwise she doesnt know I would be glad to try and help with any questions about Wicca. I know some things, and it really irritates me when people give into stereotypes about Wiccan beliefs. I looked up alot about it in the past because for a little while I was seriously considering converting to it. They have some awesome beliefs! I still might one day...maybe when I dont plan on talking to anyone in my family ever again...lol I would be glad to post the sites! Just to find them...lol __________________ I'm Baaaack!!

02-07-2003, 06:46 PM	#79
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Insidiuos they where around a few years before I was born ,but I am aware of them. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.