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I wish I had my books handy. I'd like to check the narrative when Frodo was captured. The Barrow-wight might actually have handled it, although he is not the one I am thinking of. If it does turn out to be inferred that the wight handled the ring, then honorable mention to Midge for guessing him. |
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05-14-2010, 01:04 AM | #62 |
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yes! Sorry it took me so long to get back here (finals take away much of my mooting time)
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Deagol handled the ring. He found it in the River and died minutes later (at the hand of Smeagol). Deagol is relatively unknown and I have never heard a song about him.
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05-14-2010, 10:48 AM | #64 | |
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You guys are probably gonna wanna kill me for this one, but we can still have some fun with it. The unknown person handled the ring during Frodo's tenure of possession. Go with that, and if more clues are needed I will provide them. |
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05-14-2010, 11:45 AM | #65 |
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Whoever put the ring on the chain after the Nazgul at the fords?
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Yes! That's the guy. Nice bit of deduction, Midge.
So, who do y'all think took the ring from the unconscious Frodo's pocket, and strung it through the chain? I think it probably was Gandalf. I doubt Elrond would have touched it, and Gandalf had already played with it some at Bag End. Sam would have, but I don't think that the Wise would have wanted to chance the ring ensnaring anyone else by getting him to pick Frodo's pocket. Last edited by Keith K : 05-14-2010 at 11:16 PM. |
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Here's another one for y'all to guess...
A milestone am I, and I sit in the middle, where three come together to create this riddle. Good luck, riddlers! |
05-15-2010, 04:16 PM | #68 |
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Is it one of the trolls in the Hobbit, possibly William? They are a milestone for the hobbits in LOTR, and there are three of them: William, Bert, and Tom.
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05-15-2010, 07:19 PM | #69 |
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I thought they were the three Mountains that were over Moria - one moment while I look up their names...
Elvish: Caradhras, Celebdil and Fanuidhol Dwarves:Barazinbar, Zirakzigil and Bundushathur Westron: Redhorn, Silvertine and Cloudyhead I'm not sure how well this fits IF Gimli was listing them in order, because the milestone for the Nine Walkers was definitely Caradhras and it's first. HOWEVER, Zirakzigil/Silvertine/Celebdil (the one that is listed in the middle of those) IS the mountain upon which Gandalf fought the Balrog. It was there that he threw down the Balrog and "strayed out of thought and time" - and also where he was "sent back" as the White to finish his task. If he were not sent back, Middle-Earth probably would have fallen into the hands of Sauron. Definitely a milestone. Maybe I should write an essay on "Why Gandalf is the Whole Reason Middle-Earth Survived the War of the Ring"... Because there are PLENTY of them.
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The uniforms probably looked like this: http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/te...azmat_suit.jpg, only with pretty leaf or star decorations. edit: I tried to insert an image, but it says "[img] code is OFF", so I guess I can't. Oh, well, click on the link.
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Okay - Here are my vague, unexplainable guesses (I have two): 1. For some reason, I keep leaning toward Aragorn and the Passing of the Grey Company through Dunharrow, which goes through the Starkhorn mountain. Ghosts just seem to "blow" by default. Not sure about how that's the end of a range, unless it's something to do with how far the Dead were willing to go. 2. The other guess is having to do with the Hornblowers of the Shire. They manufactured pipe weed and there would certainly be a lot of "blowing" of smoke rings and such. However, I have an issue with the "end of my range" thing again. This riddle is making me CRAZY!
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This riddle was nearly solved when the guessing suddenly stopped. By that time the riddlers of Entmoot had figured out that the range thing and the horn thing did in fact refer to mountains. At least I had thought that y'all had gotten that far. Wilhelm had translated "horn" as ras, but guessed the wrong mountain. So, are there any other "ranges" besides the White Mountain Range? Yep. There are indeed. Perhaps one of these has a mountain at one end called the "last horn"? The blowing part can be considered wind, but I mainly needed it for poetic purposes. (also, to put y'all in a bit of misdirection and drive Midge crazy). Sorry if there was confusion that mountain 'ranges' were nixed as a possible solution. So, anyone wanna tell me where in Middle Earth the solution to this riddle lies? Remember, I did say that educated Rohirrim would know the answer. That should narrow it down for ya! |
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05-15-2010, 09:47 PM | #73 | |
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Thanks for participating, EllethV! Please try again. |
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That would be an interesting argument to have. If Gandalf was the whole reason, then he wouldn't have needed any help. And he had plenty! In any event, the milestone in this riddle is not a mountain. I have driven you crazy enough with the mountain riddles... ...for now. Thanks for guessing, and please try some more. Next! A milestone am I, and I sit in the middle, where three come together to create this riddle. |
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In my early reading, before I ever gave it much thought, I had sorta envisioned a similar thing with the "nurse elf". It was only later that I realized what a big deal the actual transfer from pocket to neck must have been. |
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Methedras - the translates to end horn (more or less). It is the southern most mountain in the Misty Mountain Range. Isengard is at the foot of it's southern side. This mountain is essentially a boundary to the Gap of Rohan. The Rohirrim will know it. Assuming I now have the right Mountain... Could I have been any closer? Do I get an honourable mention for figuring out that range referred to mountains? Or for translating Horn to ras?
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The three-farthing stone. It is considered the center (middle) of the shire and represents the meeting point of the East, West and South Farthings.
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Hey Riddlers,
Are there any active riddles (other than the 2 I attempted above)? Thx.
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Great Riddle by the way! It drove me nuts, I have hated it and been totally consumed by it. I just hope it's solved.
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