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12-21-2003, 01:02 PM | #61 | ||||||||
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12-21-2003, 01:32 PM | #62 | |
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As far as I know, at least. Edit: I think this can have had an effect on the American patriotism as well. You need much feeling for your country to unite all those different fractions.
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12-21-2003, 01:44 PM | #63 | |
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Just so you know - we do adhere to our traditions - but we also accept other's traditions and mesh them in with American culture. That is why Americans basically now celebrate Cinque de Mayo. We celebrate many ethnic holidays. Basically the traditions of America - are the traditions of all the immigrants who have migrated to America. I agree that Americ is used to immigrants and accepting outsiders more than Europe seems to be - I just don't think that an "enlightened" society should be so offended by people wearing religious symbols or people adhering to their religious beliefs. By the way - the religious ban is for hospitals too. Does that mean people won't be able to pray for a dying loved one?
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12-22-2003, 06:01 AM | #64 | |
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Just very quickly - over here in Britain I don't see us as being made up of just one or two peoples. That's because we have, apart from our older peoples, immigrants from a number of different places, and there are active attempts to redefine us as a multicultural society. Indeed, government documents aimed at the public are now often in, or available in, several different languages, and several initiatives, such as those in schools, acknowledge the multicultural aspects. (And even our older peoples are mixtures - though the mixing probably happened rather a longer time ago than in the US )
Having said that, my opinion is that the banning over in France of religious symbolisms is not a good idea. I can't see how it actually stops discrimination - merely it removes a couple of things that are handy labels of difference, but I think it leaves intact the basic problem. I would be very sorry if, over here, similar measures were to be taken. Falagar's comment Quote:
And Radagast's comments I accept also - different people have different values, based on different things. That doesn't mean we should adopt absolute relativsm but it does mean accepting that not all people think the same way, and that thinking differently isn't automatically and of itself a reason for condemnation. |
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02-09-2004, 07:55 PM | #66 | |
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Anyone interested hearing about the French outlawing muslim headscarves from being worn in public buildings - especially schools can watch Nightline tonight.
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Nightline is on ABC - at 11:30 eastern; 10:30 central BTW - it's only large crosses that aren't allowed. You can still wear small crosses. [EDIT] This is also seems odd. On French news they said that Alace-Moselle is except from the law since they have a long tradition of religion being taught in schools. They have crucifixes hanging up on the classroom walls - even rooms that don't teach religion, yet a girl in an Allace school has been suspended since November for wearing a headscarf in school. She was just allowed to go to school for the first day today after reaching a compromise - she will now wear a bandana instead. Now if a school is able to have crucifixes hanging on the wall - why can't muslim students wear their headscarf? This sounds more and more like descrimination and xenophobia.
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