If you could remove one scene... - Page 4

Legolas_GreenLeaf · 03-10-2003, 12:48 PM

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ummm someone had a link to some Movie Award crap, what sort of queers vote there *damn fangirls* since when was Orlando Bloom a better supporting Actor over Sir Ian and like hell that eminem song was better than The Hands That Built America

Millane: that was the point of it!! Ian should beat orlando, thats the point of voting! eminem is in the lead too. RelaX!
and im not an obsessed fangirl by the way.

Lalaith · 03-10-2003, 05:01 PM

Remember the MTV Movie Awards last year? I voted like one hundret times for Orlando Bloom.

**Nurvingiel** · 03-10-2003, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I'm almost positive it was Gandalf.

straight_face, I completely agree with you.

You're right. Here's the quote from the book:

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With a suddenness that startled them all the wizard sprang to his feet. He was laughing! 'Ihave it!' he cried. 'Of course, of course! Absurdly simple, like most riddles when you see the answer.'
Picking up his staff he stood before the rock and said in a clear voice: Mellon!

Gandalf, p. 404, FotR

Legolas_GreenLeaf · 03-10-2003, 06:51 PM

Gandalf figured out the password, but with a hint from merry...so merry was actually correct in the first place...if that is what you are talking about.
I also agree that merry shouldn't have been the one to disturb the water, i think it was boromir who did it in the book. right?

TheRingIsMine · 03-10-2003, 11:32 PM

boromir did disturb the water in the book. i guess he'd seem too much like a dumb human if he did it in the movie.

**Nurvingiel** · 03-11-2003, 01:22 AM

Yeah, make Pippin seem like a dumb hobbit. And in the book, all he did with the well (which was in a different place, but whatever) was throw one stone in it, not an armoured skeleton. Then there was the sound of a hammer.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-11-2003, 01:25 AM

I think that you are actually thinking Pippin, not Merry.

Lalaith · 03-11-2003, 07:24 AM

In the movie Merry and Pippin are dumb, but I don't remember Merry beeing dumb at all and Pippin wasn't that dumb. He was just not the brightest.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-11-2003, 10:32 AM

Right! I completely agree with you. Except that Merry isn't TOO dumb in the movie.

Lalaith · 03-11-2003, 01:43 PM

The way Merry and Pippin were introduced in the movie wasn't good. And the reason why they joined Frodo and Sam was even worse. It looked like they just had decided to join them and didn't really know what they were doing.
In the book their reason was really cute and brave.

Legolas_GreenLeaf · 03-11-2003, 04:24 PM

I agree...FoTR made merry and pippin look like they were morons...but then again, they are hobbits and they didnt really know what they were getting themselves into at the time. The Two Towers, however, makes them look more brave too..forcing the Ents to fight and everything. Anyway,
The Return of the King will show more of their true personalities...hopefully!

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-11-2003, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Lalaith
The way Merry and Pippin were introduced in the movie wasn't good. And the reason why they joined Frodo and Sam was even worse. It looked like they just had decided to join them and didn't really know what they were doing.
In the book their reason was really cute and brave.

I know! it's like (not exactly, but not too far off):

Bang!
M&P: "O, Hi, Frodo! Whatcha doing?"
F: "Embarking on an epic quest to save the world by destroying the One Ring of Sauron in the Fires of Mount Doom, and going through countless hardships and obstacles on the way."
M&P: "Sounds like fun! We'll go with you!"

Lalaith · 03-12-2003, 12:43 PM

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Bang! M&P: "O, Hi, Frodo! Whatcha doing?"
F: "Embarking on an epic quest to save the world by destroying the One Ring of Sauron in the Fires of Mount Doom, and going through countless hardships and obstacles on the way."
M&P: "Sounds like fun! We'll go with you!"

LOL

I'm really looking forward to seeing Merry helping to kill the witch king. That will make him look much braver and brighter.

**Nurvingiel** · 03-12-2003, 10:08 PM

Actually, I don't think Merry was portrayed that badly in the movie. It's Pippin's character that will strongly benefit from becoming a knight of Gondor! Ooh, I'm really looking forward to that, I love Pippin!

Lalaith · 03-13-2003, 12:18 PM

But they seemed a little dumb to me, I can't help.

Melko Belcha · 03-13-2003, 02:04 PM

I would change the title of the movies

The War of the Ring
A dumbed down simplified version of the literary masterpiece The Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien
Directed, Rewrote, Simplified, and Massacred by Peter Jackson
1. The Belittled Fellowship of the Ring
2. Exorcisng of the King
3. The War of the Purists

Lalaith · 03-13-2003, 03:36 PM

How dare you? You have forgotten to mention Arwen in the titles!!!!!!

**Nurvingiel** · 03-13-2003, 04:54 PM

How about:

The Fellowship of the Ring including Arwen
The Two Characters of Arwen and Aragorn
and
The Return of the Main Character, Aragorn.

My obvious sarcasm shouldn't indicate any dislike for the movies, because I greatly enjoyed them and didn't think they were 'massacred'. But it is good to poke fun at things to keep it in perspective.

Lalaith · 03-14-2003, 11:13 AM

Really funny, Nurvingiel. I like the titles.

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My obvious sarcasm shouldn't indicate any dislike for the movies, because I greatly enjoyed them and didn't think they were 'massacred'. But it is good to poke fun at things to keep it in perspective.

I love sarcasm. And what you are saying is just what I'm thinking. I love both, movie and books.

Melko Belcha · 03-14-2003, 11:35 AM

Sorry, I sound more harsh then I meant.
And your right massacred was out of line. The reason I said that was for some of the character changes, not as much for the other changes. I see where PJ was going with some of the changes, but I feel that most failed. He says he has to cut stuff out, which I accept, but when you throw in huge long scenes that are more visual appealing than anything to do with the story or character development then to me it makes no since. I always love a good action scene but not over character development.

One scene to change.
In the theater version of Fellowship I would replace the stairway scene in Moria with the gift giving scene. IMO it has more to do with the story
In TT the whole Osgiliath scene. I felt it just didn't come off well. But they did make Osgiliath look awsome.

03-10-2003, 05:01 PM	#62
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Remember the MTV Movie Awards last year? I voted like one hundret times for Orlando Bloom. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-10-2003, 06:51 PM	#64
Legolas_GreenLeaf Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: °Rivendell° Posts: 116	Gandalf figured out the password, but with a hint from merry...so merry was actually correct in the first place...if that is what you are talking about. I also agree that merry shouldn't have been the one to disturb the water, i think it was boromir who did it in the book. right? __________________ Legolas, Frodo, and Aragorn are the BEST! All fans of Elijah, Orlando, Sean, Billy, and Dom (no Viggo )should go here -----> http://www.bagendinn.com/castpics.htm

03-10-2003, 11:32 PM	#65
TheRingIsMine Sapling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: outer space Posts: 12	boromir did disturb the water in the book. i guess he'd seem too much like a dumb human if he did it in the movie. __________________ Gandalf: I liked white better. Elrond: Many Elves and many mighty Men and many of their friends, had perished in the war Merry: I'm hungry, what is the time? ~Peace~

03-11-2003, 01:25 AM	#67
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I think that you are actually thinking Pippin, not Merry. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-11-2003, 07:24 AM	#68
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	In the movie Merry and Pippin are dumb, but I don't remember Merry beeing dumb at all and Pippin wasn't that dumb. He was just not the brightest. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-11-2003, 10:32 AM	#69
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Right! I completely agree with you. Except that Merry isn't TOO dumb in the movie. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-11-2003, 01:43 PM	#70
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	The way Merry and Pippin were introduced in the movie wasn't good. And the reason why they joined Frodo and Sam was even worse. It looked like they just had decided to join them and didn't really know what they were doing. In the book their reason was really cute and brave. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-11-2003, 04:24 PM	#71
Legolas_GreenLeaf Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: °Rivendell° Posts: 116	I agree...FoTR made merry and pippin look like they were morons...but then again, they are hobbits and they didnt really know what they were getting themselves into at the time. The Two Towers, however, makes them look more brave too..forcing the Ents to fight and everything. Anyway, The Return of the King will show more of their true personalities...hopefully! __________________ Legolas, Frodo, and Aragorn are the BEST! All fans of Elijah, Orlando, Sean, Billy, and Dom (no Viggo )should go here -----> http://www.bagendinn.com/castpics.htm

03-13-2003, 12:18 PM	#75
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	But they seemed a little dumb to me, I can't help. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-13-2003, 02:04 PM	#76
Melko Belcha Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Behind the Walls of Night Posts: 286	I would change the title of the movies The War of the Ring A dumbed down simplified version of the literary masterpiece The Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien Directed, Rewrote, Simplified, and Massacred by Peter Jackson 1. The Belittled Fellowship of the Ring 2. Exorcisng of the King 3. The War of the Purists

03-13-2003, 03:36 PM	#77
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	How dare you? You have forgotten to mention Arwen in the titles!!!!!! __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-14-2003, 11:35 AM	#80
Melko Belcha Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Behind the Walls of Night Posts: 286	Sorry, I sound more harsh then I meant. And your right massacred was out of line. The reason I said that was for some of the character changes, not as much for the other changes. I see where PJ was going with some of the changes, but I feel that most failed. He says he has to cut stuff out, which I accept, but when you throw in huge long scenes that are more visual appealing than anything to do with the story or character development then to me it makes no since. I always love a good action scene but not over character development. One scene to change. In the theater version of Fellowship I would replace the stairway scene in Moria with the gift giving scene. IMO it has more to do with the story In TT the whole Osgiliath scene. I felt it just didn't come off well. But they did make Osgiliath look awsome.

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