ROTK Trivia

[Spock]

Originally posted by Spock
Where did Bilbo record his adventures and in what form/format: a name Yes a two parter.

I try to be specific and others can get away with it but I always get called on it. So read, comprehend and reply; I've tried to redefine the question. I is tricksy precious.

[Radagast The Brown]

Isn't it the Red Book?

[Spock]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Isn't it the Red Book?

a) That's part of the correct name for the answer to part two

b) now you only need to answer, correctly, part one.

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Spock
Where did Bilbo record his adventures and in what form. Yes a two parter.

The Red Book of Westmarch?
What form... a book? Notes? I'm not sure what you mean. Unless you mean a diary.

[Spock]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
The Red Book of Westmarch?
What form... a book? Notes? I'm not sure what you mean. Unless you mean a diary.

Nurvingiel, you've got the answer to part two 100% correct. Truly one of our most savy participants.

Now that you know the form, think of the definition for the first part and you'll have your total answer.

[Radagast The Brown]

Well... he record them in Rivendell, didn't he? And during his journey, too, I guess... if that what you wanted?

[Spock]

Well finally, RTB, I'd almost given up hope.
Actually Radagast The Brown gets credit for a)=where
and Nurvingiel gets credit for b)=in what format.

you guys decide who posts the next question....personally I'd vote for Nurvingiel as that answer was more tricksy, prescious.
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[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by Spock
Well finally, RTB, I'd almost given up hope.
Actually Radagast The Brown gets credit for a)=where
and Nurvingiel gets credit for b)=in what format.

you guys decide who posts the next question....personally I'd vote for Nurvingiel as that answer was more tricksy, prescious.
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Well, I did say 'The Red Book'. I obviously thought you'd refer its form 'book', so... unless you mean about the 'diary'. But I wouldn't call it a form... (Yeah, I know, excuses...)

[Spock]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Well, I did say 'The Red Book'. I obviously thought you'd refer its form 'book', so... unless you mean about the 'diary'. But I wouldn't call it a form... (Yeah, I know, excuses...)

COME, COME NOW Originally posted by Nurvingiel
The Red Book of Westmarch?.......WHICH IS THE ANSWER, SPECIFICS ARE IMPORTANT. ...................no excuses permitted

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by Spock
COME, COME NOW Originally posted by Nurvingiel
The Red Book of Westmarch?.......WHICH IS THE ANSWER, SPECIFICS ARE IMPORTANT. ...................no excuses permitted

But I said it first. So there.

[Spock]

NO YOU DIDN'T

The Red Book of Westmarch.......IS THE CORRECT answer not merely the red book.

fess up, you were not totally correct.

[Cirdan]

It wasn't the redbook of Westmarch where he wrote it. The book of Westmarch contained the writings of Bilbo, Frodo, and Sam. The Red book of Westmarch was compiled after Bilbo sailed.

[Spock]

Originally posted by Cirdan
It wasn't the redbook of Westmarch where he wrote it. The book of Westmarch contained the writings of Bilbo, Frodo, and Sam. The Red book of Westmarch was compiled after Bilbo sailed.

Red Book of Westmarch

In origin the diary and commentaries of Bilbo Baggins, with additions by his heir

THIS ACCORDING TO THE ENCLYCLOPEDIA OF ARDA..and the books written by JRRT are the final say.

...The first definite mention of the Red Book is in the Prologue to The Lord of the Rings, which states that Bilbo took it with him when he left the Shire in III 3001. It was in a very unfinished state at this point; the important Translations from the Elvish would not be added until after Bilbo's arrival at Rivendell. Nevertheless, it must have predated Bilbo's departure by some time, and may even date back to his journey to Erebor sixty years before.
ok that's it. N & RTB have the go for the next question

[Radagast The Brown]

Huh!

I agree, the Red Book of Westmarch is with the adds of Frodo and Sam.

Ok... How was Pippin called by 'the folk' (in Gondor) after he wore the uniform of the gear of the Tower?

[Spock]

A prince of the Halflings.

[Cirdan]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Huh!

I agree, the Red Book of Westmarch is with the adds of Frodo and Sam.

You mean Bilbo didn't pop into a shop a say, "I'd like to buy a Red Book of Westmarch to write in."? It's like the "when does life begin?" debate. The fetus becomes Bob but was it Bob when the zygote formed? Speaking past tense one would refer to Bob's zygote, but at the time it was not Bob.

I actually first thought the question was geographical in nature. "Where" instead of "in what" or "on what" is somewhat ambiguous.

[Spock]

The Miriam Webster Dictionary defines

Where=Function: adverb
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English hw[AE]r; akin to Old High German hwAr where, Old English hwA who -- more at WHO
1 a : at, in, or to what place <where is the house> <where are we going> b : at, in,

YOU GUYS can't stand it that I was right in using the terminology I did. Specificity defines trivia. Enough already.

[Spock]

The first definite mention of the Red Book is in the Prologue to The Lord of the Rings, which states that Bilbo took it with him when he left the Shire in III 3001. It was in a very unfinished state at this point; the important Translations from the Elvish would not be added until after Bilbo's arrival at Rivendell. Nevertheless, it must have predated Bilbo's departure by some time, and may even date back to his journey to Erebor sixty years before...source JRRT and Encl. of Arda

NOT A ZYGOTE

[Radagast The Brown]

Spock:

...Further information will also be found in the selection from the Red Book of Westmarch that has already been published, underthe title of The Hobbit. That story was derived from the earlier chapter of the Red Book...

From the Prologue. So there.

You're correct about my question, by the way, although I did want what they said, nor the meaning of what they said...

[Cirdan]

He had a diary that was later named red book of westmarch. The question remains is was that what he called it while he was writing in it. We all know it was eventually called that after it was completed. Nowhere does Bilbo refer to it as "The Red Book of Westmarch". He does talk about having papers that needed going through and completing. If you have quotes from JRRT about the date it was named that would be different. It's copyright date in Shire Reckoning would be good, too.

Didn't like the zygote analogy, eh? How about unfinished, as yet unamed work in progress later known as "The Red Book of Westmarch"?