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Saying "where did the matter come from?" "GOD OBVIOUSLY CREATED IT" does not make sense. Oh we can't explain it, therefore a super being made it? NO! Plus, you can say where did the matter come from - god made it. Where did god come from?! If god could always have been there, why can't matter always have been there? Its being very hypocritical.
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Each side (ev. and cbid) gets 1 free pass good for NOT explaining where the original stuff (big bang material for evolution theory, God for cbid theory) comes from. Seems fair, doesn't it?
Great post, LoR!!
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HOBBIT,I was talking about the title of this thread; "should evolution be taught in scools?"
I just said that question was like asking if other unreal things should be taught in school.EVOLUTION AIN"T REAL,PEOPLE!wahahaaaaaaa!LOL I don't say god created earth because I believe there is no other way......I believe it because it is truth. Think as you will...........but evolution is, in my opinion, foolish,incomplete,nonsense, and crud.It doesn't add up at all.LOL And the earth did what?pop up out of nowhere?did it evolve from a rock?the process could go on,and on,and on.......hehehehehahahahahaa!!!!!!!!!!!! wOOOOt! |
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The Earth (and the planets and the sun) came from 'star stuff' (the remains of a star that had gone supernove). That star perhaps (and most probably) came from the remants of the Big Bang, where all energy and matter was created. And there is very, very strong evidence that the Big Bang happened. So the Earth didn't spring out of nowhere, the universe did! Blah. I'm too lazy to write anymore. And probably woudn't be much use anyway.
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JD's idea of what CBID involves: [start CBID statement] God did it [end CBID statement] There's a little more to it, if you look into it. And my point is still valid - neither ev nor cbid can explain the first occurance of the initial stuff - ev. says the initial stuff is whatever was behind the Big Bang (correct me if I'm wrong, please) and cbid says the initial stuff is an intelligent, powerful being.
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The fact that there is a limit as to what we can know does not make all ideas equal except in certainty. There are also the aspect of plausability and substantiation. I don't think anyone is trying to teach theories about the absolute unknown. ID also tends to equivocate god and nature thereby losing most of it's theistic aspect an thus most of it's prime motive.
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Yes, Giroth I know that you were saying No to evolution being taught in schools... i was asking "what are you talking about?" because WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
you are obviously very ignorant. *resists flaming after reading giroth's posts*
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hey - im just stating the truth. you can call someone ignorant on this board :P (if they really are - look up definition).
At least I did not call him an ignorant fool.
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Religion is not a truth seeking establishment. It's followers are expected to follow the doctrine and beliefs of that religion without question. Science allows for question. Questioning the established information is the basis for science. This is why a religion is a belief system. You have to believe it without question and have faith that it's doctrine is the truth without proof. No, before you get all your christain panties in a twist, I am not saying that science is a religion. I am using a comparison. So, be religious, by all means. Believe the doctrine and the stories past on by primitive people as truth about your world. But please do not push your belief system on the rest of the world.
Some Native American tribes believe that at the beginning of the world a creator turned people into animals. This is the basis for their traditional bond with the animal world. It is brought into some ceremonies. If we are going to be fair to all cultures, perhaps we should bring this belief into the science classroom as well. We can spend an entire year going through belief systems and how each religion and society views creation. Would that satify you? Or don't you think it would be a waste of time and money to have kids learn every single view in the world by every single culture that ever existed? Quote:
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