09-04-2006, 06:58 PM | #761 |
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depends if you are swimmin' in the local swimmin baths , or Gym, or are out in de open sea ...
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09-05-2006, 11:21 AM | #762 | |
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I have been reading through this thread for a day now. For the most part the discussion has been civil and intelligent. I will begin by saying every person has the right to choose what they do with their life, whether those decisions be considered wise or foolish by others. Let me introduce to you R. E. Woods-Marks, the real person behind Entwife Oak . Now Entwife Oak is a very poor choice of username for me. As I get into this post you will understand why. I was one of a pair of identical twins. My folks thought that each of us needed to have our own identities. My sister was given the frilly dresses, the flowers and makeup as she got older. I got jeans, plaid shirts, cowboy boots, belts and belt buckles. Her hair, for the most part was allowed to grow very long. Mine was often cut shorter as I approached maturity. My Aunt further encouraged this separation of identity. My physical development was even influenced by this treatment. I became the athletic muscular twin. Volleyball was my sport. The opposite team dreaded when it came my turn to serve the ball. I was known as an 'Ace'. I did not rely on drugs to propel my performance in sports. As I got older I was diagnosed with PCOS because of my masculine attributes. While growing up, when we as children played 'house'. I played the father role. I was given Ken instead of Barbie. I usually played with toy soldiers and guns instead of dolls. Today I am the one to fix the lawnmower, mows the 3/4 acre lawn, buries the electric cable for the electric dog fence, shovels the snow and does all the grunt outdoor work on our property. Even into adulthood there is very little feminine about me. I am now 45 and now for all intents and purposes bald. Just a fine down covers the top of my head. The whiskers on my upper lip are courser than what's on my head. Perhaps my upbringing and personality so influenced my development that I hardly look like a woman. My twin on the other hand has a full head of flowing locks, has 5 children and has a full matronly build. Why do I go into all this detail. Most women with my background choose the lifepath of bisexuality or lesbianism. That was not what I wanted out of life. I am one of those 'detestible' Christians. The road of Christ was what I wanted out of life. I have now been married to the same man for 23 years and have an 18 year old son. I have run into a lot of uphill flak from in laws and friends. I will probably get more flak from people in this thread. But it goes back to what I said at the start of this thread. Every person has the right to choose what they do with their life. I have made my choice and I don't regret it. Now about names: Huorn probably would have been a better username for me.
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09-05-2006, 11:34 AM | #763 |
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*thumbs ups Huorness*
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09-05-2006, 11:37 AM | #764 | |
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09-05-2006, 11:58 AM | #765 | |
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09-05-2006, 12:07 PM | #766 |
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Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. The body makes male hormones. The woman often balds like me and gets whiskers like me. It even effects her neurological development.
They say the woman are multi taskers where as men are single taskers. I am a single tasker. I cannot cook worth a darn because that is a multi tasking job. My son is a better book than me! I flunked Home Economics in Junior High School. Tests have been done on me and I have been told that I am not wired like a woman. Did my upbringing do this to me? Who knows.
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09-05-2006, 12:12 PM | #767 |
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Never believe tests. I'm a great cook.
Much better than my wife, and she's pretty girlie.
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09-05-2006, 01:35 PM | #768 | |
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And if I may ask a personal question, do you find other women attractive at all?
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09-05-2006, 01:55 PM | #769 |
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In my earlier development I did. I think it is a stage many go through. Now I don't. They are unnappealing to me. Women often times remind me of cats, which I dislike. Men on the other hand are something entirely different. They are now very attractive to me. On man in particular is attractive to me. I am strongly attracted to my husband. That is why I believe that sexual orientation is largely influenced by environmental factors.
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09-05-2006, 02:32 PM | #770 |
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hey, nice picture!
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09-05-2006, 02:43 PM | #771 |
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Yeah it one of my better pics. I almost never let anyone photograph me up close, though. I wouldn't look so nice!
I finnaly went ahead and did it after three years on the moot. I am dropping the Entwife account. So here is my new and more appropriate Moot name.
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09-05-2006, 03:02 PM | #772 | |
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09-05-2006, 03:17 PM | #773 |
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Lief Erickson, That is interesting. In that scenario you would have very few people producing children. It was probably the downfall of the Spartans. In their culture, their individual rights were trodden underfoot. They were forcefully conditioned to accept a certain pattern of behaviour.
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You know, Gwaimir, I suspect that the reason you're arguing with me is that you've read about Greece as a whole, of which Sparta was a part, and you're making assumptions about Spartan life based on what you've read about normal Greek life.
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The way the Spartan soldiers were trained (again, according to my History Honors class), men were coupled together to be combat partners. Their bond was celebrated, a bond of soldiers. The two trained together and entered war together. They also were sexual partners. Homosexuality was part of the structure of the Spartan army. Quote:
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09-06-2006, 05:15 PM | #778 |
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Gwaimir has a point y'know - you should always, ALWAYS go to the primary sources over the secondary sources.
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09-06-2006, 06:02 PM | #779 |
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Thank you very much Entwife/Huorn for sharing your story.
The fact that your and your identical twin's upbringings were so interestingly different and that only you developed POCS made me spend the last hour or so searching for and skimming through medical articles about environmental risk factors associated with POCS. Lol, I'm a med student nerd
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09-06-2006, 06:29 PM | #780 |
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Lief, i would seriously examine your single somewhat oddly slanted quirky source of a teacher somewhat ...
also, beware of then adding your own slant (in your own reading of it on top of that angle as relayed by one man ...) in terms of evidential material. Neither would i rate wikipedia too highly in this regard either. ... mind you there were only 500 spartans against the might of the east! |
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