Gays, lesbians, bisexuals, PART II - Page 38

Insidious Rex · 08-03-2006, 01:17 PM

Youre right. Their "agenda" is to oppose discrimination and promote equality. How outrageous! Lets pass nefarious laws against this kind of ungodly thinking.

So who is this "April Working Group" anyway and why (once again) do you assume they speak for all homosexuals and non traditional degenerates you like to lump in with them?

Gwaimir Windgem · 08-07-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by inked

Executive Summary (click here to read the full statement)

I click, and I click, but nothing happens! Your link is broken.

The Wizard from Milan · 08-07-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by inked

And, what's really out at the OUTGAMES ?

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/...cb06cc62c3&p=1

Yep, you got it! Intolerance.

And in Canada, too!

I actually was at the Outgames and I did not see a single display of intollerance. The atmosphere was actually extremely freindly. I was not at the opening cerimony mentioned in the article, but it seems to me that booing a representative of the government in that context hardly qualifies as intolerance.

GreyMouser · 08-08-2006, 12:23 PM

Given that the Conservatives were opposed to gay marriage, and that Harper vowed to reverse the decision if elected, it's hardly surprising that the crowd would not welcome a visit from a government that is trying to strip them of their rights and return them to a legal status of being second-class citizens.

brownjenkins · 08-08-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by inked

Look carefully and you'll find the next step is to not "regard the number of partners". Agenda? What agenda?

Better yet. Abolish marriage as a civil institution all together.

truthiscool · 08-14-2006, 04:19 PM

I thought that this was a thread about gays ect..........................

Butterbeer · 08-14-2006, 04:59 PM

well, we are a happy bunch, if that is what you mean?

Last Child of Ungoliant · 08-14-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Butterbeer

well, we are a happy bunch, if that is what you mean?

ooo, get her

and now for something completely different - i was watching tv earlier, like i do most of the time as i have no life

and i saw something about people's perceptions on other people and the generally held notion from those interviewed was that the stereotypical views were what those people thought was correct, which is of course absurd...i mean the minute i start acting like dafydd thomas from little britain is the minute that i aint myself anymore

***Jonathan*** · 08-15-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

and now for something completely different - i was watching tv earlier, like i do most of the time as i have no life

and i saw something about people's perceptions on other people and the generally held notion from those interviewed was that the stereotypical views were what those people thought was correct, which is of course absurd...i mean the minute i start acting like dafydd thomas from little britain is the minute that i aint myself anymore

Lol, the only gay in the village

I guess if people have no life and watch tv all the time (not you Chrys), they get tv mixed up with reality. Tv is their substitute for life experience and if they watch shows like Little Britain... hehe, it's too horrible to think about. Anyway this only accounts for the lazy bums. Other people who still think the stereotypical views are correct, well that's just a shame.

The Gaffer · 08-15-2006, 10:28 AM

Sometimes there's a two-way thing where people might expect you to behave in a certain way, and as a result you do. I've seen that, in the process of coming out, there is a bit of to-ing and fro-ing. Inevitably so, since there is suddenly a whole new raft of behaviours available which were previously off-limits, and people need to find their own way.

On the TV thing, here's an interesting anecdote from the experience of a friend who is transsexual. He (used to be she) was terrified of telling his granny, for various reasons: he'd been her only granddaughter (if you see what I mean), his granny was ultra-conservative, and his experiences of telling other, more (seemingly) liberal members of the family had been fraught to say the least.

However, the time eventually came when it could not be hidden under the carpet any longer (I think it was when his voice broke). Her reaction was "oh I saw a programme on the telly about it", give him a big massive hug and offer to pay for the rest of his operations out of her life savings. So TV can open minds as well as close them...

***Jonathan*** · 08-15-2006, 10:45 AM

What a sweet granny.

Reminds me, I saw on tv today that Ricki Lake was having an American Drag Queen Idol competition. Lol!

Perhaps exposure of homo/bi/trans persons on tv and other media makes society as a whole more tolerant.

The Gaffer · 08-15-2006, 10:56 AM

Can do I think, particularly if they would not (knowingly) come into contact with such people in real life.

truthiscool · 08-15-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Butterbeer

well, we are a happy bunch, if that is what you mean?

realy now thats interesting.

Spock · 08-16-2006, 10:59 AM

I always shudder when watching old movies and the people say "they are gay" or "the evening is gay", etc. As I wonder what those actors would feel in todays redefined meaning of the word. The innocense of language seems to have been lost.

Gwaimir Windgem · 08-16-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan

Reminds me, I saw on tv today that Ricki Lake was having an American Drag Queen Idol competition. Lol!

Now, that would be worth watching!

GreyMouser · 08-17-2006, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spock

I always shudder when watching old movies and the people say "they are gay" or "the evening is gay", etc. As I wonder what those actors would feel in todays redefined meaning of the word. The innocense of language seems to have been lost.

I know what you mean- like when someone says "that's seems queer" or "he's a a queer one"

***Earniel*** · 08-17-2006, 02:24 PM

It took me quite a while to find out what people actually meant with the sort of expression like 'that's so gay' when I first heard them.

In my mind those phrases always brought up images of people happily walking over sunny meadows waving with lots of brightly coloured ribbons. Because that's what the dictionary said when I looked it up: "without worry, cheerful, having fun, brightly coloured".

It caused me quite some confusion, because how could that be bad?

Last Child of Ungoliant · 09-04-2006, 05:43 PM

ever feel like you're swimming in one direction, and when you turn a different way you feel like it is easier that way, or something? i say this because i seem to have entered that stage in life where you discard everything you thought you knew about yourself, i dont believe i quite know what sexuality i actually am anymore

but then, i am only 20 - i'm sure i will figure my world out eventually

Nerdanel · 09-04-2006, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

ever feel like you're swimming in one direction, and when you turn a different way you feel like it is easier that way, or something? i say this because i seem to have entered that stage in life where you discard everything you thought you knew about yourself, i dont believe i quite know what sexuality i actually am anymore

but then, i am only 20 - i'm sure i will figure my world out eventually

*shakes your hand* Chrys, I'm going through that stage myself, right now. And I feel it's a good thing.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 09-04-2006, 05:51 PM

we'll see where i end up

08-03-2006, 01:17 PM	#741
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	Youre right. Their "agenda" is to oppose discrimination and promote equality. How outrageous! Lets pass nefarious laws against this kind of ungodly thinking. So who is this "April Working Group" anyway and why (once again) do you assume they speak for all homosexuals and non traditional degenerates you like to lump in with them? __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

08-14-2006, 04:19 PM	#746
truthiscool Enting Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 86	I thought that this was a thread about gays ect.......................... __________________ There are those in the world who do not understand that our time is limited and so they wast it but in the end when they stand before god the will realize what a mistake they made.

08-15-2006, 10:45 AM	#751
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	What a sweet granny. Reminds me, I saw on tv today that Ricki Lake was having an American Drag Queen Idol competition. Lol! Perhaps exposure of homo/bi/trans persons on tv and other media makes society as a whole more tolerant. __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻

08-16-2006, 10:59 AM	#754
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	I always shudder when watching old movies and the people say "they are gay" or "the evening is gay", etc. As I wonder what those actors would feel in todays redefined meaning of the word. The innocense of language seems to have been lost. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

08-17-2006, 02:24 PM	#757
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	It took me quite a while to find out what people actually meant with the sort of expression like 'that's so gay' when I first heard them. In my mind those phrases always brought up images of people happily walking over sunny meadows waving with lots of brightly coloured ribbons. Because that's what the dictionary said when I looked it up: "without worry, cheerful, having fun, brightly coloured". It caused me quite some confusion, because how could that be bad? __________________ We are not things. Last edited by Earniel : 08-17-2006 at 02:26 PM.

08-08-2006, 12:23 PM	#744
GreyMouser Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 301	Given that the Conservatives were opposed to gay marriage, and that Harper vowed to reverse the decision if elected, it's hardly surprising that the crowd would not welcome a visit from a government that is trying to strip them of their rights and return them to a legal status of being second-class citizens.

08-14-2006, 04:59 PM	#747
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	well, we are a happy bunch, if that is what you mean?

08-15-2006, 10:28 AM	#750
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Sometimes there's a two-way thing where people might expect you to behave in a certain way, and as a result you do. I've seen that, in the process of coming out, there is a bit of to-ing and fro-ing. Inevitably so, since there is suddenly a whole new raft of behaviours available which were previously off-limits, and people need to find their own way. On the TV thing, here's an interesting anecdote from the experience of a friend who is transsexual. He (used to be she) was terrified of telling his granny, for various reasons: he'd been her only granddaughter (if you see what I mean), his granny was ultra-conservative, and his experiences of telling other, more (seemingly) liberal members of the family had been fraught to say the least. However, the time eventually came when it could not be hidden under the carpet any longer (I think it was when his voice broke). Her reaction was "oh I saw a programme on the telly about it", give him a big massive hug and offer to pay for the rest of his operations out of her life savings. So TV can open minds as well as close them...

08-15-2006, 10:56 AM	#752
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Can do I think, particularly if they would not (knowingly) come into contact with such people in real life.

09-04-2006, 05:43 PM	#758
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	ever feel like you're swimming in one direction, and when you turn a different way you feel like it is easier that way, or something? i say this because i seem to have entered that stage in life where you discard everything you thought you knew about yourself, i dont believe i quite know what sexuality i actually am anymore but then, i am only 20 - i'm sure i will figure my world out eventually

09-04-2006, 05:51 PM	#760
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	we'll see where i end up

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