Movies you've just seen (Pt. II) - Page 37

Gwaimir Windgem · 08-30-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

You obviously lump all actors into the same category

. Harrison Ford is COOL actor, a good B-movie actor action-hero.

See, "B-movie" and "good" don't go together too well. "Action-hero" also has minor compatibility issues.

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As I say, overrated

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As Ms. Gamgee points out, Anthony Hopkins regularly raises mediocre movies to a higher level. I mean, there's only so much you can do with Zorro, but the number of times I've seen a movie that clearly would have been quite bad without Anthony Hopkins, but his presence and acting skill bring it up, and even the other actors do better than they normally do.

I haven't seen Fracture, though I want to (because it has Vivica Genaux in it!

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my idea of good actors: Ralph Fiennes, Alec Guinness, heck Matt Damon is pretty good too, even though I dislike him

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Don't know Fiennes. Guinness is good, I grant readily. Damon is not.

BeardofPants · 08-30-2008, 05:33 PM

'Tis subjective. Ye can argue 'til yer blue in the face about this. Oh, and FYI, Harrison Ford is a good actor.

Gwaimir Windgem · 08-31-2008, 01:06 AM

See, this is where we disagree. I believe that art and beauty are too important to leave them in the subjective realm.

Also about Harrison Ford.

BeardofPants · 08-31-2008, 02:10 AM

I am beginning to think you are a snob, Gwaimir Windgem. Does an actor have to be limited to a period-piece to be considered 'good' on your sliding scale? An actor can't be "good" in sci-fi and/or action genres? [/serious question]

**Mari** · 08-31-2008, 02:43 AM

BoP! You are here! Happy to see you again. ^_^

Gwaimir Windgem · 08-31-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BeardofPants

I am beginning to think you are a snob, Gwaimir Windgem. Does an actor have to be limited to a period-piece to be considered 'good' on your sliding scale? An actor can't be "good" in sci-fi and/or action genres? [/serious question]

Nope. Andreas Katsulas and Peter Jurasik from Babylon 5 are two actors who I think gave simply sterling performances in the sci-fi genre as G'kar and Londo Mollari, respectively. Peter Jurasik especially. Londo is probably the most interesting character I've seen in a television series, and he brings him to life with superb skill.

Heath Ledger was knock-out incredible as the Joker. I don't think there's been such a good performance for quite some time.

Now, to be honest, I don't watch that many sci-fi and/or action movies, so these are the only ones in those genres that spring to mind, though I'm sure there are a number of others who are very good actors. Bruce Willis, actually, I would call a good actor, as well.

I just posted a while ago that I quite liked the new Sleuth; this was primarily because Michael Caine and Jude Law (especially Caine, but both of them) gave simply incredible performances. This is a thriller we're talking about here; not exactly at the level of "period piece".

Another actor I think is really good is Johnny Depp. His characterisations are consistently spot on, and he saved Once Upon a Time in Mexico, much as Anthony Hopkins saves films.

So, unless Babylon 5, Batman, thrillers, and Johnny Depp are your ideas of "snob" material, the answer would be "no".

And by the way, I don't like a lot of period pieces. They tend to be sentimental and just portray an idealised, villified, or modernised version of their period, and spend too much time focusing on the period than on the characters. There are some exceptions, but by and large, they tend to be along those lines.

hectorberlioz · 09-02-2008, 04:24 PM

I have two words, Gwai: dunce cap.

Acalewia · 09-02-2008, 07:33 PM

If we are going to stay on the topic of great actors, I'm going to throw in Doug Jones.

He is one of the greatest character actors I've seen. He's spent his entire career under heavy prosthics and makeup, thus the need to be highly talented. Some of the most talked about of his performances were in Hocas Pocas and Pan's Labyrinth. In Hocas Pocas, he played the Zombie that sproated off Shakespeare after undoing the bindings on his lips. In PL, he recieved rave reviews as El Fauno and The Pale Man. And trust me, the Pale Man just about made me not want to go to sleep. In the movies I've seen of him, a majority have used someone else's voice (Rise of the Silver Surfer, The first Hellboy movie just to name a couple). And he can be ubercreepy when he wants. (Fear Itself's "Skin & Bones" anyone)

shesabrandybuck · 09-04-2008, 07:07 PM

Anyone seen I'm Not There? The film where various actors show the different lives of Bob Dylan? It was fabulous.

***Jonathan*** · 09-08-2008, 01:05 PM

Wall-E is such a cute film. I guarantee you'll feel good and happy after you've seen it

Rosie Gamgee · 09-09-2008, 10:11 AM

Flawless. Amazing film. Very understated, but very amazing. Michael Caine and Demi Moore give great performances; the movie has you on the edge of your seat without special effects, car chases, and or excessive gun-waving. Amazing movie.

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-09-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shesabrandybuck

Anyone seen I'm Not There? The film where various actors show the different lives of Bob Dylan? It was fabulous.

No, but I want to. I'm particularly intrigued by the fact that Cate Blanchett is said to be the most like him.

Thain Peregrin Took I · 09-11-2008, 08:36 PM

The Mummy Returns - Not as good as the first or third one, in my opinion, but still good.

Acalewia · 09-13-2008, 11:30 AM

The Other Boylen Girl~ Very good. Lot of coniving. Very good period piece.

b.banner · 09-13-2008, 07:32 PM

The Sandlot- Great childhood memories of watching this when i was 4
Finding Brendan- an interesting movie with Adam Brody

**Mari** · 09-14-2008, 07:41 AM

Acally, what did you like about it? I've heard so many people say it was good, but I really thought it sucked.

Acalewia · 09-17-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari

Acally, what did you like about it? I've heard so many people say it was good, but I really thought it sucked.

The acting was great, imo. It's really not that different from RL people I know, minus the bedding of a king.

Actually, Henry, Anne and Elizabeth intrgue me. It's such a violent time period and you really don't see many movies that don't sugarcoat stuff. Mrs. Boylen actually made the comment that it costs a fortune for a royal visit and it was money they couldn't afford. Stuff like that most movies don't mention. I was impressed with the film.

**Mari** · 09-22-2008, 12:43 PM

I saw Chocolate. Or actually, I only saw the first half since my stupid DVD-player started choking on it.
Anyway, I read the book first and I must say that I am horrified. Absolutely horrified! What did they do to the book? Is it just the title that's the same and by accident also some of the names of the characters or what?

***Earniel*** · 09-22-2008, 02:05 PM

Just saw Hellboy. Much more fun that I expected, quite a good movie actually. If the second one lives up to the expectation I may decide to buy them both on DVD.

Taped Batman Begins last week to watch next. Am curious.

Goldberry1 · 09-22-2008, 03:59 PM

I saw "Burn After Reading" this past weekend. I enjoyed it, and it was definitely funny, but as with most other Coen brothers' films I left with a bit of a feeling of, "so what did it all mean?"

Which I guess can be a good or bad thing, depending on how you look at it.

Also, from the moment she appeared onscreen, I could not look at Frances McDormand without being reminded of Johnny Depp in "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory."

08-30-2008, 05:33 PM	#722
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	'Tis subjective. Ye can argue 'til yer blue in the face about this. Oh, and FYI, Harrison Ford is a good actor. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

08-31-2008, 01:06 AM	#723
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	See, this is where we disagree. I believe that art and beauty are too important to leave them in the subjective realm. Also about Harrison Ford. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

08-31-2008, 02:10 AM	#724
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I am beginning to think you are a snob, Gwaimir Windgem. Does an actor have to be limited to a period-piece to be considered 'good' on your sliding scale? An actor can't be "good" in sci-fi and/or action genres? [/serious question] __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

08-31-2008, 02:43 AM	#725
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09-02-2008, 04:24 PM	#727
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09-02-2008, 07:33 PM	#728
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	If we are going to stay on the topic of great actors, I'm going to throw in Doug Jones. He is one of the greatest character actors I've seen. He's spent his entire career under heavy prosthics and makeup, thus the need to be highly talented. Some of the most talked about of his performances were in Hocas Pocas and Pan's Labyrinth. In Hocas Pocas, he played the Zombie that sproated off Shakespeare after undoing the bindings on his lips. In PL, he recieved rave reviews as El Fauno and The Pale Man. And trust me, the Pale Man just about made me not want to go to sleep. In the movies I've seen of him, a majority have used someone else's voice (Rise of the Silver Surfer, The first Hellboy movie just to name a couple). And he can be ubercreepy when he wants. (Fear Itself's "Skin & Bones" anyone) __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

09-04-2008, 07:07 PM	#729
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09-09-2008, 10:11 AM	#731
Rosie Gamgee The Lovely Hobbit-Lass Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bounded in a nut-shell Posts: 1,593	Flawless. Amazing film. Very understated, but very amazing. Michael Caine and Demi Moore give great performances; the movie has you on the edge of your seat without special effects, car chases, and or excessive gun-waving. Amazing movie. __________________ It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year!

09-11-2008, 08:36 PM	#733
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09-13-2008, 11:30 AM	#734
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	The Other Boylen Girl~ Very good. Lot of coniving. Very good period piece. __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

09-13-2008, 07:32 PM	#735
b.banner Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Trying to keep a hold on my temper so I don't turn into a big green guy. Posts: 572	The Sandlot- Great childhood memories of watching this when i was 4 Finding Brendan- an interesting movie with Adam Brody __________________ "We are going to tickle some Aes Sedai under the chin, rescue a mule, and put a snip-nosed girl on the Lion Throne. Oh, yes. That's Aviendha. Don't look at her cross-wise or she'll try to cut your throat and probably slit her own by mistake."-Mat Cauthon from Wheel of Time "Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...."-Dr. Bruce Banner HULK BATMAN THE FLASH

09-14-2008, 07:41 AM	#736
Mari Elf Lady Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In the lands where mountains are but a fairytale Posts: 8,588	Acally, what did you like about it? I've heard so many people say it was good, but I really thought it sucked. __________________ Love always, deeply and true ★ Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer. ★ Friendship is sharing openly, laughing often, trusting always, caring deeply. ...The Earth laughs in flowers ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Hamatreya"...

09-22-2008, 12:43 PM	#738
Mari Elf Lady Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In the lands where mountains are but a fairytale Posts: 8,588	I saw Chocolate. Or actually, I only saw the first half since my stupid DVD-player started choking on it. Anyway, I read the book first and I must say that I am horrified. Absolutely horrified! What did they do to the book? Is it just the title that's the same and by accident also some of the names of the characters or what? __________________ Love always, deeply and true ★ Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer. ★ Friendship is sharing openly, laughing often, trusting always, caring deeply. ...The Earth laughs in flowers ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Hamatreya"...

09-22-2008, 02:05 PM	#739
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09-22-2008, 03:59 PM	#740
Goldberry1 Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DC or Delaware, depending on the time of year Posts: 244	I saw "Burn After Reading" this past weekend. I enjoyed it, and it was definitely funny, but as with most other Coen brothers' films I left with a bit of a feeling of, "so what did it all mean?" Which I guess can be a good or bad thing, depending on how you look at it. Also, from the moment she appeared onscreen, I could not look at Frances McDormand without being reminded of Johnny Depp in "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory." __________________ Oh, your collegiate grief has left you dowdy in sweatshirts, absolute horror! Last edited by Goldberry1 : 09-22-2008 at 04:01 PM.

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