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Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-03-2005, 09:41 PM

Wagnerian (-V-) Bauhaus

is likely if it was on das valkyries
i love the ring cycle,

Mercutio · 03-03-2005, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

Ouch!

that's some good editing!

The problem is that its so different from the original, I'd feel guilty to have it published under my name...

I don't think it's so different/drastically changed.

That's what editors are for!

It was my pleasure to help you.

***Fat middle*** · 03-04-2005, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

Wagnerian (-V-) Bauhaus

And what does that mean?

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-04-2005, 05:27 AM

wagnerian refers top richard wagner ie, composer of ring cycle
bauhaus is the wagnerian theatre in munich IIRC
and (-V-) means i dont know what the v means

***Fat middle*** · 03-04-2005, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

wagnerian refers top richard wagner ie, composer of ring cycle
bauhaus is the wagnerian theatre in munich IIRC
and (-V-) means i dont know what the v means

The Bauhaus I only know about is a School for Architecture in Berlin... I think that the theatre you're refering to is Bayreuth.

If it were an F instead of V, it could stand for Wagnerian Festpiel (sp?) (of in German

) Bayreuth.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-04-2005, 08:33 AM

yep, i meant bayreuth, my memory often fails me

Mercutio · 03-04-2005, 11:41 PM

My brother spent a month there a few years ago for study-abroad. Apparently for the Wagner Festival you have to get space/tickets/ a year in advance, it is such a big thing.

http://www.bayreuther-festspiele.de/

Aber sie ist auf Deutsch...

***Fat middle*** · 03-08-2005, 12:41 PM

I've spent the last three months hooked on Bach's Christmas Oratorio. I got a recording by Gardiner with my beloved Anne Sophie Von Otter and a some other very nice soloists and with his English Baroque Soloists showing a perfect performance with original instruments. I'm very happy of this "discovering" since I didn't know that work before

I don't know how many times I have listen to it since Christmas!

But now, as Easter approaches, I'm thinking it's about time to begin my yearly listening and relistening of The Work: St. Matthew's Passion!!

hectorberlioz · 03-09-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by trolls' bane

I don't know. I saw it once at least, on the Ride of the Valkyries, on both of the CD's that I have that have it.

Bach's works are catalogued with BWV...but Wagner? I didn't even know he used opus numbers!

hectorberlioz · 03-09-2005, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat middle

I've spent the last three months hooked on Bach's Christmas Oratorio. I got a recording by Gardiner with my beloved Anne Sophie Von Otter and a some other very nice soloists and with his English Baroque Soloists showing a perfect performance with original instruments. I'm very happy of this "discovering" since I didn't know that work before

I don't know how many times I have listen to it since Christmas!

But now, as Easter approaches, I'm thinking it's about time to begin my yearly listening and relistening of The Work: St. Matthew's Passion!!

Its about time I my hands on some Bach Vocal stuff! John Eliot Gardiner eh? Sounds excellent. By the way Fat Middle, do you have Les Troyens?

And Merc, how many times should I thank you?

I just got a recording of Berlioz's La Damnation de Faust, with Sir Colin Davis conducting. This Faust is alot better than Gounod's and Boito's I must say!
Gounod lacks Berlioz's sophistication, and Boito is too concerned about the text...
I also got a disc of some Harpsichord sonatas by a spanish priest, Antonio Soler, who studied under Scarlatti. I couldnt get to my Yo-yo Ma/John Williams disc until after I'd listened to the Soler about three times in a row!
I have some misc. Delius, which I am sad to say. is somewhat boring (I'm not quick to judge things quickly, but in this case

...), and I have anotther version of Prokofiev's Alexander Nevsky. The Riccardo Chailly and the Claudio Abbado recordings are very excellent, and I just can't choose a favorite...

trolls' bane · 03-09-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

Bach's works are catalogued with BWV...but Wagner? I didn't even know he used opus numbers!

Must have something to do with the stores I go to and the companies that make the CDs.

Hmm, two-three posts per visit. How did you get to 2,470 posts when you joined almost 2 months after me?

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-09-2005, 09:08 PM

opus is latin for '(piece of) work'

***Fat middle*** · 03-10-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

By the way Fat Middle, do you have Les Troyens?

Nope. I was about to buy it last month. There was a special offer of operas at the main store of my town, I bought one Don Giovanni (old recording mono bad colour but by Furtwangler) and one Rigoletto (at the MET with Placido Domingo and Illeana Cotrubas). I was undecided about Les Troyens because I was not sure about the version they had. Anyway I wanted to buy a third opera and it'll probably be Les Troyens because I've listen recentlly again to Berlioz's Requiem and... it's so formidable that I want more Berlioz soon!

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I just got a recording of Berlioz's La Damnation de Faust, with Sir Colin Davis conducting. This Faust is alot better than Gounod's and Boito's I must say!

I'll have that in memory

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I also got a disc of some Harpsichord sonatas by a spanish priest, Antonio Soler, who studied under Scarlatti. I couldnt get to my Yo-yo Ma/John Williams disc until after I'd listened to the Soler about three times in a row!

I love Soler (and Scarlatti) but I haven't any recordings of them

hectorberlioz · 03-10-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by trolls' bane

Must have something to do with the stores I go to and the companies that make the CDs.

Hmm, two-three posts per visit. How did you get to 2,470 posts when you joined almost 2 months after me?

Oh, well I'm not sure you were around to witness me and Nurvingiel's race to 1000 posts

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Nope. I was about to buy it last month. There was a special offer of operas at the main store of my town, I bought one Don Giovanni (old recording mono bad colour but by Furtwangler) and one Rigoletto (at the MET with Placido Domingo and Illeana Cotrubas). I was undecided about Les Troyens because I was not sure about the version they had. Anyway I wanted to buy a third opera and it'll probably be Les Troyens because I've listen recentlly again to Berlioz's Requiem and... it's so formidable that I want more Berlioz soon!

It's the Colin Davis recording that you need! Either the 1969 recording or the 2000 (or was it 2001?) recording. The '69 recording is the one to get

I ordered 'Benvenuto Cellini' (by Berlioz) at a Hastings store and it was $47.99!! Ouch!

...well, I have to get it on sunday though it'll mean I have to get my sister's present later...

***Fat middle*** · 03-10-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

It's the Colin Davis recording that you need! Either the 1969 recording or the 2000 (or was it 2001?) recording. The '69 recording is the one to get

But are them on DVD?

I like to watch to operas, not just listen...

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-10-2005, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat middle

But are them on DVD?

I like to watch to operas, not just listen...

same here, FM

saw a lovely Marriage of Figaro the other week, with Bryn Terfel and Cecilia Bartolli

trolls' bane · 03-12-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

Oh, well I'm not sure you were around to witness me and Nurvingiel's race to 1000 posts

Nope. You may have joined after but you might as well have joined a millenium before.

hectorberlioz · 03-28-2005, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

same here, FM

saw a lovely Marriage of Figaro the other week, with Bryn Terfel and Cecilia Bartolli

Cecilia Bartoli! If there was an opera singer that I could marry (close tie with Renee Fleming though), it would be her! Anyone else listen to the Salieri Album?

Fat Middle you lazy! Alright, I don't know if either of those is on dvd...check on amazon.com though!

Is anyone here going through Monteverdi Craze? I am. I listened to the Vespro della beata vergine at least ten times in the past week. I'm looking around for some madrigals...

***Fat middle*** · 03-29-2005, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

Fat Middle you lazy! Alright, I don't know if either of those is on dvd...check on amazon.com though!

Yep, me lazy, but not this time: I checked the Internet and found there are two existing Les Troyens DVD.

I've bought Gardiner's version at Le Chatelet. Great!

Since I didn't know the work before I cannot judge it, but for me it sounded very well, both the orchestra, chorus and soloists.

The scene was of the modern type. I usually like the traditional scenes better, but I liked this one, but for the stupid thing of making the greek warriors as guerrilla soldiers or marines...

I've definitely enjoyed it, and I'm looking forward to find another 4 hours to spare for a second watch

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Is anyone here going through Monteverdi Craze? I am. I listened to the Vespro della beata vergine at least ten times in the past week. I'm looking around for some madrigals...

I've listened very little of Monteverdi.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-29-2005, 10:07 AM

i always preferred Byrd to Monteverdi

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03-08-2005, 12:41 PM	#688
*Fat middle* Mootis per forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Spain Posts: 61,439	I've spent the last three months hooked on Bach's Christmas Oratorio. I got a recording by Gardiner with my beloved Anne Sophie Von Otter and a some other very nice soloists and with his English Baroque Soloists showing a perfect performance with original instruments. I'm very happy of this "discovering" since I didn't know that work before I don't know how many times I have listen to it since Christmas! But now, as Easter approaches, I'm thinking it's about time to begin my yearly listening and relistening of The Work: St. Matthew's Passion!! __________________ Do not be hasty. That is my motto. Now we'll have a drink and go to the Entmoot.

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Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	Wagnerian (-V-) Bauhaus is likely if it was on das valkyries i love the ring cycle,

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