Reading any good books? - Page 33

Gwaimir Windgem · 08-09-2006, 03:09 PM

I'm planning on putting together a seminar on Dorian Gray once the semester starts. SUCH a good book.

There definitely should be a Wilde thread. I'm currently working my way through his plays; once I finish that, I think I'll just have his non-fiction left, but I'll probably just read De Profundis, and leave articles on dress reform etc. alone..

O.o Complete Shakespeare? I'm very proud of you, sun-star. Quite an undertaking. My college did a production of Lear last semester; I discovered that if I'm going to go to a Shakespheare play, I should read it before hand. I understand him read pretty well, but when they say it, I just have this perpetual "say what?" expression...

sun-star · 08-10-2006, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercutio

What particularly? Did he write a humorous commentary on it or something?

Or do you just find yourself picking up Wodehouse when you really meant to plow through another Shakespeare play...(that would be me!).

It keeps reminding me of the mangled quotations he uses from Shakespeare - hair standing on end like the fretful porpentine, etc

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I understand him read pretty well, but when they say it, I just have this perpetual "say what?" expression...

I know that feeling...

Curubethion · 08-10-2006, 08:52 PM

I've been reading some of G.K. Chesterton's Father Brown mysteries-really cool, a lot of them! The Secret Garden was somewhat gruesome, though...but very interesting.

hectorberlioz · 08-12-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Curubethion

I've been reading some of G.K. Chesterton's Father Brown mysteries-really cool, a lot of them! The Secret Garden was somewhat gruesome, though...but very interesting.

I've GOT to read those! But they're so darned rare

Curubethion · 08-12-2006, 03:43 PM

Just find them at the library.

Just finished The Man Who Was Thursday, also by GK. Good book, although the end was kinda wierd...

Beren3000 · 08-21-2006, 10:23 AM

I'm currently on Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien. Any of you guys heard of it?

hectorberlioz · 08-21-2006, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Beren3000

I'm currently on Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien. Any of you guys heard of it?

Isn't he that guy who wrote about elves or something?

Curubethion · 08-21-2006, 08:20 PM

JRR who?

Mercutio · 08-21-2006, 08:23 PM

I'm reading Bleak House now. Sadly, I'm in between library copies. I returned the one from the local library around home, but am not quite yet at college to pick up another copy.

so sad!

hectorberlioz · 08-25-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Curubethion

JRR who?

Tolkien

, a fantasy writer. Probably a ripoff from Piers Anthony or something... (

Did I SAY THAT!?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercutio

I'm reading Bleak House now. Sadly, I'm in between library copies. I returned the one from the local library around home, but am not quite yet at college to pick up another copy.

so sad!

I have a copy...

Arien the Maia · 08-25-2006, 10:00 PM

I am in the middle of The Devil Wears Prada which is really good. I LOVE books written in the first person.

Curubethion · 08-26-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

Tolkien

, a fantasy writer. Probably a ripoff from Piers Anthony or something... (

Did I SAY THAT!?)

Ah...now that makes sense!

cee2lee2 · 08-27-2006, 10:07 PM

Just finished up The Arm of the Starfish by Madleine L'Engle, again

Her books are among those I re-read every so often.

Also been reading some Harry Potter fanfic at mugglenet.

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-09-2006, 07:40 PM

Just finished De Profundis by Wilde. Very, very good. Powerful book. Wouldn't recommend it to a general audience, though; you need to have the background first.

hectorberlioz · 09-11-2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

Just finished De Profundis by Wilde. Very, very good. Powerful book. Wouldn't recommend it to a general audience, though; you need to have the background first.

Because it's wild, or because it's hard?

Actually, that's how I feel about Hector Berlioz' Memoirs...you need to know a decent amount of musical background to "get" it.

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-11-2006, 02:37 PM

Because it really is "De Profundis", or "Out of the Depths", basically a very intense and close Wilde takes at himself, and enabling him and us to see how he changed in prison. But it is, very, very powerful. If St. Therese of Lisieux hadn't already taken it, an excellent title would be "Story of a Soul". It would only really appeal to someone who is interested in Wilde himself. It is very human, and very real. No, it's not "wild", if by that you mean raunchy. He makes allusions to sexual matters, but always (as I recall) in a very delicate manner. It's not really hard; I at any rate found it incredibly absorbing, and very easy to get into, but I don't know if that would be the case for someone who does not have the interest in Wilde's character which I have.

hectorberlioz · 09-11-2006, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

Because it really is "De Profundis", or "Out of the Depths", basically a very intense and close Wilde takes at himself, and enabling him and us to see how he changed in prison. But it is, very, very powerful. If St. Therese of Lisieux hadn't already taken it, an excellent title would be "Story of a Soul". It would only really appeal to someone who is interested in Wilde himself. It is very human, and very real. No, it's not "wild", if by that you mean raunchy. He makes allusions to sexual matters, but always (as I recall) in a very delicate manner. It's not really hard; I at any rate found it incredibly absorbing, and very easy to get into, but I don't know if that would be the case for someone who does not have the interest in Wilde's character which I have.

I hadn't even suspected he'd written something like that...

btw, does he ever talk about evolution in his essays?...I seem to recall reading one essay in one of the signet classic books...

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-11-2006, 06:49 PM

He wrote it as a (very long app. 150 pages) letter to Lord Alfred Douglas, the object of his affection, from which his trials stemmed. Apparently, there's quite a history; he wrote one copy, and gave it to Robbie Ross (a very, very good friend of his, who became his literary executor, probably the most faithful friend he had), who made two type-written copies, and sent one to Lord Alfred (who denied ever receiving it), and, I believe, kept the other, bequeathing it to Wilde's son Vyvyan after his death. in 1909 he donated the manuscript to, I believe, the British Museum, on the understanding that its contents would be made public in 50 years, and published a heavily editted version of it (in which he largely removed the indictments of Lord Alfred and his father, the Marquess of Queensberry). Vyvyan published his typescript copy in 1949, and with that, it was thought that the whole of De Profundis was in print. But in 1959, when the manuscript was made available, it was discovered that the typescript had a very large number of errors (two thousand is the number that comes to mind), so a new edition was made with the manuscript, which is what I have.

I haven't read much of his essays; honestly, only one on dress reform (I was just too curious...

). Just his stories, poems, and plays.

hectorberlioz · 09-12-2006, 06:32 PM

Did he think we should all wear dresses?

Interesting indeed...

And I was reading the pianist Arthur Rubinstein's autobio, and apperantly he met one of Wilde's "associates".

durinsbane2244 · 09-12-2006, 06:47 PM

i'm going through "Bulfinch's Mythology"...it's great...

08-09-2006, 03:09 PM	#641
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I'm planning on putting together a seminar on Dorian Gray once the semester starts. SUCH a good book. There definitely should be a Wilde thread. I'm currently working my way through his plays; once I finish that, I think I'll just have his non-fiction left, but I'll probably just read De Profundis, and leave articles on dress reform etc. alone.. O.o Complete Shakespeare? I'm very proud of you, sun-star. Quite an undertaking. My college did a production of Lear last semester; I discovered that if I'm going to go to a Shakespheare play, I should read it before hand. I understand him read pretty well, but when they say it, I just have this perpetual "say what?" expression... __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

08-10-2006, 08:52 PM	#643
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	I've been reading some of G.K. Chesterton's Father Brown mysteries-really cool, a lot of them! The Secret Garden was somewhat gruesome, though...but very interesting. __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

08-12-2006, 03:43 PM	#645
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Just find them at the library. Just finished The Man Who Was Thursday, also by GK. Good book, although the end was kinda wierd... __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

08-21-2006, 08:20 PM	#648
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	JRR who? __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

08-21-2006, 08:23 PM	#649
Mercutio Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Narnia Posts: 1,656	I'm reading Bleak House now. Sadly, I'm in between library copies. I returned the one from the local library around home, but am not quite yet at college to pick up another copy. so sad! __________________ Mike nodded. A sombre nod. The nod Napoleon might have given if somebody had met him in 1812 and said, "So, you're back from Moscow, eh?". Interested in C.S. Lewis? Visit the forum dedicated to one of Tolkien's greatest contemporaries.

08-21-2006, 10:23 AM	#646
Beren3000 Fëanorophobic Join Date: May 2004 Location: Between the pages of a book Posts: 1,417	I'm currently on Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien. Any of you guys heard of it?

08-25-2006, 10:00 PM	#651
Arien the Maia Fëanáro's Fire Mistress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indiana, USA Posts: 1,423	I am in the middle of The Devil Wears Prada which is really good. I LOVE books written in the first person.

08-27-2006, 10:07 PM	#653
cee2lee2 Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 2nd star to the left..... Posts: 566	Just finished up The Arm of the Starfish by Madleine L'Engle, again Her books are among those I re-read every so often. Also been reading some Harry Potter fanfic at mugglenet.

09-09-2006, 07:40 PM	#654
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Just finished De Profundis by Wilde. Very, very good. Powerful book. Wouldn't recommend it to a general audience, though; you need to have the background first. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

09-11-2006, 02:37 PM	#656
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Because it really is "De Profundis", or "Out of the Depths", basically a very intense and close Wilde takes at himself, and enabling him and us to see how he changed in prison. But it is, very, very powerful. If St. Therese of Lisieux hadn't already taken it, an excellent title would be "Story of a Soul". It would only really appeal to someone who is interested in Wilde himself. It is very human, and very real. No, it's not "wild", if by that you mean raunchy. He makes allusions to sexual matters, but always (as I recall) in a very delicate manner. It's not really hard; I at any rate found it incredibly absorbing, and very easy to get into, but I don't know if that would be the case for someone who does not have the interest in Wilde's character which I have. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle Last edited by Gwaimir Windgem : 09-11-2006 at 02:38 PM.

09-11-2006, 06:49 PM	#658
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	He wrote it as a (very long app. 150 pages) letter to Lord Alfred Douglas, the object of his affection, from which his trials stemmed. Apparently, there's quite a history; he wrote one copy, and gave it to Robbie Ross (a very, very good friend of his, who became his literary executor, probably the most faithful friend he had), who made two type-written copies, and sent one to Lord Alfred (who denied ever receiving it), and, I believe, kept the other, bequeathing it to Wilde's son Vyvyan after his death. in 1909 he donated the manuscript to, I believe, the British Museum, on the understanding that its contents would be made public in 50 years, and published a heavily editted version of it (in which he largely removed the indictments of Lord Alfred and his father, the Marquess of Queensberry). Vyvyan published his typescript copy in 1949, and with that, it was thought that the whole of De Profundis was in print. But in 1959, when the manuscript was made available, it was discovered that the typescript had a very large number of errors (two thousand is the number that comes to mind), so a new edition was made with the manuscript, which is what I have. I haven't read much of his essays; honestly, only one on dress reform (I was just too curious... ). Just his stories, poems, and plays. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

09-12-2006, 06:32 PM	#659
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