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(In fact, I've often wondered if Saddam hasn't just been a figurehead of his govt. for the last decade-or-so). |
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Well, the war has not been as painless as advertised. The president and media played it out to be a very fast war - lasting at most a couple days, that the Iraqi's would surrender almost immediately. I've lost count, but there have been about 5 helicopters down. And lots more casualties than expected. They are still meeting resistance...But you can't blame them for defending their home.
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In order for them to TRULY be patriotic - then the citizens would have to be rising up. The Republican Guard would fight because they're the most loyal - the rest of the militia seems to fight from fear of Hussein. The armed forces fighting has nothing to do with patriotism.
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And you think that he knew exactly what every part of his network were doing at all times?? I'm sure that he passed the buck of many of the responsibilitis of running Iraq to many of his 'trusted' people on various occasions. One man cannot rule a country through terror......... |
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Also you might be interested in noticing that many of our casualties have been friendly fire or equipment failure. It's really just crazy to think that this war is going at all badly for the coalition so far. If you want to be afraid of how this war is going, be afraid of the situation coming up in Baghdad. That's a situation worth being concerned about, but as yet the enemy resistance has been being crushed. |
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The only reason he has remained ruler for as long as he has is because of this grip of terror he has upon the country. His officials would be taking a deadly risk in speaking to each other about revolt, considering Saddam's secret police. And considering what many of Saddam's people are like. He puts people in ranking positions who will do as he wants, and he can threaten or eliminate people who aren't trustworthy. The primary way you could say that Saddam likely doesn't have complete control of his country is if you assume that there are powerful factions under him. Saddam never has and never would permit such factions; he has always consistently eliminated everyone who has been the slightest threat to his rulership. I have to beg to differ with your final statement. One man can rule a country through terror. However, the whole argument makes little differance one way or the other. We can't know whether Saddam's regime has been manipulating him or not, and it makes little differance either way. |
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It's not about Hussein being alive in Iraq (at least as far as the government is concerned). In the long run it doesn't matter to them - just as long as they can use Hussein's image right now to keep the people from rising up. Right now hey can control the people and hope that through propaganda they may win.
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You really do amaze me sometimes JD......you start a discussion then contradict yourself by dismissing it Oh well, it filled a couple of minutes in anyway... |
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Saddam (If he's alive) or his government (If he isn't) have a hold of power right now, and they wouldn't give it up for anything. They also have nowhere to run, even if they did give up. They've committed horrible acts and have gotten every nation furious at them. It's not worth anyone's while to take them in; it would be dangerous for anyone who did. |
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Ummmm, I mean good news!
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