Riddling continued - Page 32

***Valandil*** · 11-19-2003, 07:50 AM

Yes - I was trying to think about how some things Dunedain fit into your riddle... couldn't quite see it being the Palantiri...? Was that a hint though? Does it have to do with Numenor / Dunedain / Arnor or Gondor or such? Was that a HINT?

Shall we trade hints then? You were uncomfortably close with your guess of Bilbo!

Keith K · 11-19-2003, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valandil
Does it have to do with Numenor / Dunedain / Arnor or Gondor or such? Was that a HINT?

Yes.

Is yours Gloin?

Keith K · 11-19-2003, 08:51 AM

The palantiri is a good guess. They were of different sizes. But, as you probably considered they were not easily divided in half (individually), plus they were not seven parts of a single whole as the riddle suggests.

Here is a reposting of the riddle for convenience:

Middle Earth Geometry Riddle

Out of the whole divide me by seven.
From the seven, choose six and divide each by two.
The one remainder from the original seven represents the largest value.
The other six have ever decreasing values.

What in Middle Earth can I be?

note: The solution to the riddle is not a mathematical number. You must think abstractly to derive the answer.

***Valandil*** · 11-19-2003, 10:52 AM

Gloin is correct for mine. Good job!

***Valandil*** · 11-19-2003, 11:35 AM

Keith, if this does involve, the Dunedain, I'm thinking of how Arnor was divided into three parts... but I can't think of how Gondor was similarly divided, nor how there was a separate, distinct part remaining (unless an abstract, perhaps 'Platonic-logos' type of "Numenor" as an ideal realm).

Am I barking up the wrong ent?

Keith K · 11-19-2003, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valandil
Am I barking up the wrong ent?

Yes.

Keith K · 11-19-2003, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valandil
(unless an abstract, perhaps 'Platonic-logos' type of "Numenor" as an ideal realm).

What an interesting idea. However, I don't think I would ever expect y'all to answer a riddle of mine that was so esoteric and ethereal. Still, I admire your ideas. You are a capable thinker with the ability to stretch the boundaries of imagination! Those are good qualities for riddling.

Keith K · 11-19-2003, 01:38 PM

Here's a little riddle to play with...

I was seen climbing the rim of the world,
holding on high a shining, bright sword.

Radagast The Brown · 11-19-2003, 01:41 PM

Earendil?

***Valandil*** · 11-19-2003, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Keith K
Here's a little riddle to play with...

I was seen climbing the rim of the world,
holding on high a shining, bright sword.

Is HoME req'd reading to solve this one?

PS: I aspire to that someday, but haven't yet!

Keith K · 11-19-2003, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Earendil?

Hello again Radagast, nice to see you. You're guess is a good one, you are thinking along the right lines, but it is not quite the answer I am looking for. Still, you have reasoned correctly so hurry back with another guess.

Keith K · 11-19-2003, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valandil
Is HoME req'd reading to solve this one?

It is a LoTR riddle.

Radagast The Brown · 11-19-2003, 01:50 PM

It's a person, right?

Keith K · 11-19-2003, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
It's a person, right?

Hmm, not sure I want to give out any clues on this one yet.

Radagast The Brown · 11-19-2003, 02:59 PM

Aha.

Menelvagor?

Keith K · 11-19-2003, 03:03 PM

Aha is right! The correct answer is Menelvagor. Chalk another one up for Radagast! Nicely done. Back in a few with a new riddle that I have been working on. BTW Radagast, how about opining on the geometry riddle?

***Valandil*** · 11-19-2003, 03:34 PM

*wonders "whodaheck is 'Menelvagor'???"*

Radagast The Brown · 11-19-2003, 04:54 PM

Menelvagor = swordman of the sky, from the index. I can't really translate it back to English - I think it would be 'fortune' of Orion.
Varda created it - it is written in Sil as 'Menelmacar'.

***Valandil*** · 11-19-2003, 05:03 PM

Ahhh... so this is some point where our troupe is star-gazing?

Keith K · 11-19-2003, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valandil
Ahhh... so this is some point where our troupe is star-gazing?

Yes, if you go outside tonight you can see him for yourself. Menelvagor and his "shining belt". It is one of the easiest to find constellations in the night sky.

11-19-2003, 08:51 AM	#623
Keith K Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: charlotte, n.c. Posts: 1,081	The palantiri is a good guess. They were of different sizes. But, as you probably considered they were not easily divided in half (individually), plus they were not seven parts of a single whole as the riddle suggests. Here is a reposting of the riddle for convenience: Middle Earth Geometry Riddle Out of the whole divide me by seven. From the seven, choose six and divide each by two. The one remainder from the original seven represents the largest value. The other six have ever decreasing values. What in Middle Earth can I be? note: The solution to the riddle is not a mathematical number. You must think abstractly to derive the answer. Last edited by Keith K : 11-19-2003 at 08:55 AM.

11-19-2003, 01:41 PM	#629
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Earendil? __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

11-19-2003, 01:50 PM	#633
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	It's a person, right? __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide Last edited by Radagast The Brown : 11-19-2003 at 01:53 PM.

11-19-2003, 02:59 PM	#635
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Aha. Menelvagor? __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

11-19-2003, 04:54 PM	#638
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Menelvagor = swordman of the sky, from the index. I can't really translate it back to English - I think it would be 'fortune' of Orion. Varda created it - it is written in Sil as 'Menelmacar'. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

11-19-2003, 07:50 AM	#621
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Yes - I was trying to think about how some things Dunedain fit into your riddle... couldn't quite see it being the Palantiri...? Was that a hint though? Does it have to do with Numenor / Dunedain / Arnor or Gondor or such? Was that a HINT? Shall we trade hints then? You were uncomfortably close with your guess of Bilbo!

11-19-2003, 10:52 AM	#624
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Gloin is correct for mine. Good job!

11-19-2003, 11:35 AM	#625
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Keith, if this does involve, the Dunedain, I'm thinking of how Arnor was divided into three parts... but I can't think of how Gondor was similarly divided, nor how there was a separate, distinct part remaining (unless an abstract, perhaps 'Platonic-logos' type of "Numenor" as an ideal realm). Am I barking up the wrong ent?

11-19-2003, 01:38 PM	#628
Keith K Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: charlotte, n.c. Posts: 1,081	Here's a little riddle to play with... I was seen climbing the rim of the world, holding on high a shining, bright sword.

11-19-2003, 03:03 PM	#636
Keith K Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: charlotte, n.c. Posts: 1,081	Aha is right! The correct answer is Menelvagor. Chalk another one up for Radagast! Nicely done. Back in a few with a new riddle that I have been working on. BTW Radagast, how about opining on the geometry riddle?

11-19-2003, 03:34 PM	#637
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	wonders "whodaheck is 'Menelvagor'???"

11-19-2003, 05:03 PM	#639
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Ahhh... so this is some point where our troupe is star-gazing?

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