03-27-2008, 09:13 AM | #621 |
Elf Lord
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,535
|
Our state convention is in a couple of weeks. I will NOT be going as a delegate, darnit. (By the way, and this should be in the happy thread, I had the choice on that day to run a LARP, attend a Bat Mitzvah, or go to the state convention ) I hope we manage to elect good delegates. And I hope we get through the convention with some darn dignity intact.
But slinging has been a big occupation all over. People are going to have to remember what our main task is, here. I saw a Star Trek that outlined the problem perfectly, the other day. :/
__________________
That would be the swirling vortex to another world. Cool. I want one. TMNT No, I'm not emo. I just have a really poor sense of direction. (Thanks to katya for this quote) This is the best news story EVER! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26087293/ “Often my haste is a mistake, but I live with the consequences without complaint.”...John McCain "I shall go back. And I shall find that therapist. And I shall whack her upside her head with my blanket full of rocks." ...Louisa May |
03-27-2008, 09:52 AM | #622 |
Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Lost in the Opera House
Posts: 9,328
|
The upside of mudslinging: it coats the candidates in mud as they prepare to walk through the fires of the General Election. Baked candidates. MMmmm.
__________________
ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide |
03-27-2008, 10:10 AM | #623 |
The Ñoldóran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mishawaka, IN
Posts: 2,050
|
That's an interesting way to look at it! I'm so tired of all the mudslinging, I'm about ready to vote for whoever doesn't engage in it, no matter what party they are... Ok, not really, but it sounds good anyway. I do wish for once that a candidate could campaign on their strength instead of the other candidate's faults, though.
__________________
Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian |
03-27-2008, 10:25 AM | #624 | |
Elf Lord
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,535
|
Quote:
And it will never get her elected. She talked about her first house, and how important to them it was...they were married in the living room. That part got applause. She was really engaging, when she wasn't in "policy wonk' mode. I've seen Obama speak too. It's a "falling in love" thing. He's like the world's greatest mirror...in his optimism you see yourself, and your country, growing to new and nobler heights. But unless the Dems have a Hillary with a 'to-do list' they can't get there. That's what the Super-delegates worry about. We have to win the peace, too. I hope we can work it out sensibly.
__________________
That would be the swirling vortex to another world. Cool. I want one. TMNT No, I'm not emo. I just have a really poor sense of direction. (Thanks to katya for this quote) This is the best news story EVER! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26087293/ “Often my haste is a mistake, but I live with the consequences without complaint.”...John McCain "I shall go back. And I shall find that therapist. And I shall whack her upside her head with my blanket full of rocks." ...Louisa May |
|
03-27-2008, 10:32 AM | #625 |
The Ñoldóran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mishawaka, IN
Posts: 2,050
|
I've not seen Hillary speak in person, but I saw Obama in Louisville last February before he officially started his campaign. I agree with you 100% - listening to him speak is one of the most uplifting and hopeful experiences I've ever had.
I have nothing whatsoever against Hillary's platform. I agree with most of it. I'm just afraid that her insistence on continuing her campaign on such a dirty level is going to split the democratic party and cause problems in November.
__________________
Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian |
03-27-2008, 10:43 AM | #626 | |
Elf Lord
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,535
|
Quote:
__________________
That would be the swirling vortex to another world. Cool. I want one. TMNT No, I'm not emo. I just have a really poor sense of direction. (Thanks to katya for this quote) This is the best news story EVER! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26087293/ “Often my haste is a mistake, but I live with the consequences without complaint.”...John McCain "I shall go back. And I shall find that therapist. And I shall whack her upside her head with my blanket full of rocks." ...Louisa May |
|
03-27-2008, 10:46 AM | #627 |
The Ñoldóran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mishawaka, IN
Posts: 2,050
|
That's for sure.
Well, anyway, it's certainly a more interesting primary than I ever remember having in my lifetime. But interesting is not necessarily good, I suppose. Personally, I think what we need to do is completely revamp the system, get rid of the vestiges of anti-federalism still inherent in the "Delegate" system and the "Electoral College" and have a president elected by the will of the people alone. It would solve so many problems!
__________________
Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian |
03-27-2008, 10:57 AM | #628 |
Elf Lord
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 987
|
And create so many more. . .
|
03-27-2008, 10:58 AM | #629 |
The Ñoldóran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mishawaka, IN
Posts: 2,050
|
Oh really? Elaborate.
EDIT: I'm off to the store, be back in a bit.
__________________
Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian Last edited by Curufin : 03-27-2008 at 11:02 AM. Reason: leaving |
03-27-2008, 11:21 AM | #630 | |
Elven Warrior
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 112
|
Hi, How are you? I'm sorry but you're wrong.
Quote:
First, the delegate system is part of the political parties' system for selecting candidates, not related to the Electoral College which was outlined as part of the Constitution as a method to allow the selection of presidents. ELiminating the Electroral College would actuually cause many more difficulties than most people beleive. It would essentially cause the collapse of the two party system that evolved as a result from the way the E.C. was designed. If the Electoral College were to be abolished, elections would become MUCH nastier than they already are. Third party and single issue candidates would proliferate and stand a much better chance of actually winning. It wouldn't take as many votes to become the president. Imagine the type of problems that could come from being elected "leader of the free world" with much less than 50% of the country having voted for you. The way that a candidate would succeed would be to inflame their base with controversial subjects as opposed to building coalitions between different types of voters. Only the largest media markets would be targeted for campaigning. Because it would be straight on numbers, not appealing to people in states across the board. The Electoral College forces candidates to appeal to wider markets. The Electoral College was partly designed to ensure the rights of minorities and smaller populations. That would become a thing of the past because there would be no strategic advantage to winning all 500,000 voters in Wyoming. The Electoral College has solved a lot more problems than it has created, not least of which being without the compromise of the Electoral College, there would be the independant colonies, and not the United States of America. Besides, what reimbursement would there be for living in wyoming without the Electoral College? lol I happen to be writing an extensive research paper on the E.C. now which lends to my current erudition... Nice to meet you! |
|
03-27-2008, 12:30 PM | #631 | ||||||||||
The Ñoldóran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mishawaka, IN
Posts: 2,050
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian Last edited by Curufin : 03-27-2008 at 12:32 PM. Reason: typo |
||||||||||
03-27-2008, 01:56 PM | #632 |
Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Lost in the Opera House
Posts: 9,328
|
Hey all you new Mooters! Good to have new voices joining in the conversation.
Looks like Mitt will be joining McCain in Salt Lake City soon. Wonder what that means.
__________________
ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide |
03-27-2008, 01:58 PM | #633 | |
The Ñoldóran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mishawaka, IN
Posts: 2,050
|
Quote:
Are you thinking there's going to be a McCain/Romney ticket?
__________________
Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian |
|
03-27-2008, 02:00 PM | #634 | |
Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA
Posts: 10,820
|
Quote:
__________________
Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle |
|
03-27-2008, 02:14 PM | #635 | |
Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Lost in the Opera House
Posts: 9,328
|
Most of the mooters here are
Quote:
But in any case, McCain needs Mitt while speaking in SLC. It isn't exactly McCain Country. For every vote McCain got, Mitt got 18. I think Mitt is there to quell the resentment.
__________________
ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide |
|
03-27-2008, 02:26 PM | #636 |
The Ñoldóran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mishawaka, IN
Posts: 2,050
|
I think Condi would be a good choice for him. It would help with his 'I'm-just-another-old-white-guy' image.
__________________
Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian |
03-27-2008, 02:32 PM | #637 | |||||||
Elf Lord
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,535
|
Similar feed no fish. If you want to amend party rules, you must join a party. If you want to amend the Constitution, get in line.
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
And he loves seeing himself on TV.
__________________
That would be the swirling vortex to another world. Cool. I want one. TMNT No, I'm not emo. I just have a really poor sense of direction. (Thanks to katya for this quote) This is the best news story EVER! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26087293/ “Often my haste is a mistake, but I live with the consequences without complaint.”...John McCain "I shall go back. And I shall find that therapist. And I shall whack her upside her head with my blanket full of rocks." ...Louisa May |
|||||||
03-27-2008, 02:36 PM | #638 | |
Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Lost in the Opera House
Posts: 9,328
|
Quote:
__________________
ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide |
|
03-27-2008, 02:38 PM | #639 | ||
Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Lost in the Opera House
Posts: 9,328
|
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide |
||
03-27-2008, 02:41 PM | #640 | |||
The Ñoldóran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mishawaka, IN
Posts: 2,050
|
Quote:
Two old white guys are going to have trouble fighting that, and McCain is going to need an ace up his sleeve if he hopes to win in November. Condi is also young, attractive, and new to elected office. She's also black and female, which, to some, are important characteristics. Quote:
Quote:
__________________
Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian Last edited by Curufin : 03-27-2008 at 02:48 PM. Reason: Missed something else... |
|||
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Entmoot Election 2008: ** THE RESULTS ** | Earniel | General Messages | 137 | 03-17-2010 10:15 PM |
Posters of the Year 2008 | Coffeehouse | General Messages | 161 | 08-03-2009 03:10 PM |
2008 Olympics: Beijing | Valandil | General Messages | 121 | 09-03-2008 10:14 AM |
On May 22 2008.........The Return Of INDIANA JONES! | b.banner | Entertainment Forum | 10 | 08-01-2008 01:35 PM |