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Old 02-21-2003, 10:41 PM   #601
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Amen Gerbil!! (see first post)

I ecspecially hated the way Faramir was messed up and second (I'm sorry but spoiler text doesnt work on mine so if you havent seen it to bad)

I LOVE HALDIR HES MY FAVORITE ELF AND PETER JACKSON PERSONALLY MURDERED HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARGHHHHH NO FAIR AHHHHHH HE WASNT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE THERE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*coughs* ahem i am now done
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Old 02-21-2003, 10:47 PM   #602
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oh and one more thing I swear if Peter jackson messes up Eowyn's big scene even a tiny bit or messes up thier love story a smidge I will personally write to him and complain and you will all hear me yell!
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Old 02-25-2003, 08:53 PM   #603
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Just had to say it

I love the Two Towers, book and movie!

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Old 02-25-2003, 09:50 PM   #604
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oh and one more thing I swear if Peter jackson messes up Eowyn's big scene even a tiny bit or messes up thier love story a smidge I will personally write to him and complain and you will all hear me yell!
I seriously doubt that you need to worry. The only times that Jackson has deviated from the books is for clear cinematic reasons. Eowyn's scene in ROTK is tailor-made for Jackson's talents. I get goosebumps just thinking about it.
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Old 02-26-2003, 07:00 AM   #605
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I know I can't believe Haldir got killed I was sooooooooo upset!
I cheered when i first saw him there and then he got killed i couldn't believe it!
I know the elves weren't meant to be there but i think it worked! except Haldir dying!

I didn't like the way Faramir came accross as being a bit nasty. I mean i liked him but you saw of his angry nasty side than his good side. I love him in the book but he wasn't quite the same!

I loved the film on the whole though it was great!
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Old 03-05-2003, 10:42 AM   #606
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I finally saw it!

Well, my girls and I finally saw TTT last night, and let me just say, "Wow!"

Rating it as a movie, for its acting, action, story, keeping my interest, etc., it's at WORST a 9 out of 10 (that means I loved it).

Rating it as a Tolkien fan, (1) I could have done with a lot less of Arwen, (2) they totally ruined Faramir, (3) Aragorn's near-death scene was unnecessary, (4) I loved the Ents, but (5) they weren't as isolationist as PJ made them out to be, (6) the exorcism was off-base--to put it mildly, (7) I loved Gollum/Smeagol and his debates with himself, and (8) the battle scenes were great, but I missed the Huorns. That's what comes off the top of my head anyway. Not much different from others reactions, I don't think.

Now, when can I convince my wife to let me see it again?
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Old 03-06-2003, 04:31 PM   #607
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Movie Arwen is okay. More importantly, she's part of an important and romantic story, created by Tolkien, in which she marries Aragorn. PJ will follow it through. He has to!

And Eowyn's not nasty, she's great!
Agreed. Arwen and Aragorn deserve each other - neither appears to have a sense of humor. Eowyn deserves better - not necessarity Faramir, unless he improves significantly.
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Old 03-06-2003, 08:47 PM   #608
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~Lets see..Well I hated that Faramir was protrade so mean. I didn't really like Eowyn. I loved Helms Deep and the Ents all amazing!Gandalf acted like he was better than others. Pippin and Merry were still great Frodo wimpyer(like hes suppose to be) Sam still loyal(wish they would have kept the part about the rope the same) Smeagol(sorry if its misspelled)/ Gollum was also great...Legolas and Gimlis friendship got stronger and Aragorn got more of a kingly air to him.But haldir dieing BAD!!!!!!!!! very BAD!!!! elves at helms deep good

~Over all movie GREAT thats all i have to say
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Old 03-07-2003, 01:50 AM   #609
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Interesting. I loved Eowyn! I thought she was so cool! Even though I wouldn't have let Grima touch me, but whatever. Eowyn rawks.

But, why didn't you like her?
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Old 03-07-2003, 07:26 AM   #610
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I think Eowyn was great
I was furious about Faramir and the Ents, however
But i did like Haldir's death
Isn't it funny how they manage to kill a character who didn't even appear in TTT and also make this other character who didn't appear a protagonist?
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Old 03-07-2003, 05:45 PM   #611
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Isn't it funny how they manage to kill a character who didn't even appear in TTT and also make this other character who didn't appear a protagonist?
Are you referring to Arwen in that second part?
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Old 03-08-2003, 06:47 AM   #612
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Yup
I'm quite sure i didn't find her name once in TTT the book
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Old 03-08-2003, 05:11 PM   #613
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Interesting. I loved Eowyn! I thought she was so cool! Even though I wouldn't have let Grima touch me, but whatever. Eowyn rawks.

But, why didn't you like her?
I like her rolland all, power to girls, but I'm really not sure why I don't like her..I just don't...hmm...
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Old 03-08-2003, 05:25 PM   #614
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Your comment is all well and good--coming from a huge Tolkien fanatic. But what about the casual movie-goer who sees TTT without a clue who King Theoden or Wormtongue are? The nice thing about the exorcism is that it made it clear to the audience that Saruman was controlling the King behind the scenes without a lot of boring (to the general audience anyway) exposition otherwise required to bring everyone up to speed. Whether Tolkien envisioned it the same way is open for debate. But it was an absolutely perfect way to adapt this part of the book to the big screen.
In other words - dumbing down the movie, which was why I also hated FotR. Jackson could have made an intelligent movie instead of the action moves he's turned Lord of the Rings into. He produced a movie that really doesn't have much depth to it. It';s just the standard Hollywood block buster with huge special effects.
Jackson made changes which DID NOT have to be made and NOT everything had to be laid out and explained through elaberate action scenes.
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Old 03-08-2003, 11:23 PM   #615
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Boo-yah Tolkien fanatics! I have been so dubbed by BB as well (acurately.)

I wouldn't say that FotR and TTT were dumbed down, but rather, simplified. True, you could interpret this the same way, but simplified has different connotations, and I don't think either movies were dumb by a long shot.

There were some changes that I felt were unnecessary. I would have portrayed some things differently to be more true to what I feel to be the spirit of the book. But that's my own subjective view, Jackson did the best darn job he could.

Even so, I think subtlety does translate to the big screen perfectly well.
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Jackson made changes which DID NOT have to be made and NOT everything had to be laid out and explained through elaberate action scenes.
That's so true! Especially the Osgiliath bit. Oh, and the Aragorn-fights-warg-falls-off-cliff-apparently-dies-doesn't-really-gets-licked-awake-by-horse bit. What the?
I just don't get that bit. What was the point?
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Old 03-09-2003, 07:10 AM   #617
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Get ready for a spoiler (not really a big one though) I thought the special efects were amzimg, in the Ents Last March, i thought they looked like they belonged there. Golloum was very real too. When the Wargs attaked teh group by Rohan, they looked very scary and frightening. I have to log off now, so bye bye Peace out
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Gollum and the Ents were really awesome!

The Wargs weren't too scary, but I was nervous some of the refugees were going to get mauled. That would have been horrible! In that sense, they were very scary. (I was going to write "IMO", but everything I write is "IMO"! )
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Gollum/Andy Serkis was amazing!!!!!
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