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I think Mercutio is thinking of the way that tolerance has come to mean, in common parlance, not the tolerating of something, but rather the embracing of it. Those who consider homosexuality to be wrong are often called intolerant, even if they do absolutely nothing about it, even though that is the definition of tolerance.
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See my post in the homosexual marriage thread for a collected and calm discussion of the use of demogoguery in this issue. I think it applicable here but won't repeat it. It's the the one from Jewish World Review. To oppose a specific behaviour for specific reasons is not intolerance. To be classed a homophobe for opposing a specific behaviour is intolerance because it redefines the debate as to exclude opposition.
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I never meant to imply that you had said I was homophobic, it was an illustration of a point that was being made. If you think I made it up, I can refer you to the article I read it in a few weeks back, but but it would be nice if you'd just take my word for it since I'd rather not slander the people involved. It isn't a pleasant story to read. If you want the link, let me know.
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This is homophobia....http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...-album-to.html......I had not heard of this before this blog reported it. Shari'a is not as friendly as you might wish to think.
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However. If you want to use an analogy (like the one about the priest), consider: is it appropriate for this thread/board? Is it relevant to this discussion? Does it help my arguments? If it does add to the thread in some way, then by all means, make the analogy. But then there is no reason not to provide a link. If you feel the story is too graphic or upsetting, then maybe the analogy was inappropriate for htis thread in the first place. ![]()
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But, it could be that gays have an agenda after all.......
"A film-and-video lab owner has filed suit against a county Human Rights Commission for ordering him to duplicate two pro-homosexual videos produced by a lesbian activist. Tim Bono and Bono Film and Video, Inc. of Arlington, Va., is challenging the authority of the Arlington County Human Rights Commission, the Arlington County Board and Arlington County. The controversy began when Tim Bono was contacted by lesbian activist Lilli Vincenz via e-mail to reproduce documentaries entitled "Gay and Proud" and "Second Largest Minority." " read it all: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=50554 So, once again, the argument that what Tom and Harry and Leslie and Leesa do in the bedroom doesn't affect anyon else bites the dust. Agenda? What agenda? We ain't got no agenda! (Pssssst: wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn?)
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Dear Inkie, all gay people have not banded together and formed a single, unified agenda when you weren't looking.
There is no gay agenda. Gay people can have agendas, but there is no "gay" agenda. Also, I agree with you about Shari'a law. ![]()
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Depends on how you define a gay agenda. If you think it's an agenda which is common to all gay people qua gay people, then no, there certainly isn't. But the phrase "gay agenda" generally means things the accomplishment of which are desired by people who are in general leaning towards the acceptance and whatnot of homosexuality. Using such a meaning, I think that there certainly is a gay agenda, and there is an agenda for pretty well everything. If you don't think that things are at the best they could be, then you should have an agenda in regards to that; it is proper and right.
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Hey,let's out 'em all.......
http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...marriage_foes/ Where do I sign up? Do I get a yellow star or a brownshirt or what? ![]() ![]() Maybe that if this were conservatives getting the list of gay marriage supporters somebody would be claiming victimization, huh? ![]()
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Ex gay petitions congress
The following article is a testimony from an ex-gay who doesn't think he's locked into his lifestyle
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Ex-gay... Funny word.
It's like saying:"Ex-righthanded: I used to be righthanded but *adopts monty python voice* I got better!" ![]()
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why not?
or indeed the opposite of ...er... why not? point is ..that's something you gotta work out for yourself ... ..or not ... crystal clear. |
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Lawsuit by owner against Commission, then, Commission decides it wasn't correct since there was NO conversation about lezzie's sexual orientation - after notifying 5000 media outlets of its first decision. Lawyer still employed. State Attorney says action would have been illegal under VA law since sexual orientation is not a discriminatory category in law. Read it all... http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jun/06061306.html Nurv, your blindness to the existence and success of the gay agenda doesn't make it less real. I know that every commission in the country routinely notifies 5000 news outlets of its decisions just like in Canada every township has its links to 5000 outlets, right? ![]()
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[Flamebaiting removed]
[EDIT by Eärniel]Lotesse, if you have issues with people, deal with them in PM, not in open forum.[/EDIT]
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[EDIT by Eärniel] contents removed. Same as above.
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