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At the risk of being accused of high-jacking the thread to heterosexual stuff, I would like to point out that it's not just the RCC which has problems like abuse and not just homosexuals. This is a serious problem for any religious outfit that experiences this sort of miscreant (and yes, sinful) behaviour.
See http://mcj.bloghorn.com/2402#Comments I have not yet taken the link to the video because I'm not sure I can stand it. ![]()
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I was going to watch the video for you to spare your tender eyes, but it was taking too long to load on this ancient computer.
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It's easy to make groups of us and them (why doesn't somebody start a thread on this? ![]() OTOH, on this issue, there is a common ground here, and it is tolerance- Senegal, Sudan, Pakistan,and Iran go without saying; China- commie dictators; Zimbabwe, Ivory Coast, Cameroon; Russia- check the latest news about the gay march? I'm actually impressed that the US supported the good guys- it's depressing to see all those votes: In favour- almost everybody; Against- US, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran.... |
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Being gay is out of this world, and even if it isn't, we'll make it that way!
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,7901483.story
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Re: Inked's link
Man, you find the worst articles! Seriously! ![]() Quote:
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Dear Everybody: CANON Yours sincerely, The Management
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Nurv,
Canon? CAnon? CANon? CANOn? CANON? from you? ![]() There is no canon, Nurv. You have said that and upheld it so many times I had to fall on the floor in a dead faint when I saw your post. And, you might have a streak of homophobe in you if can't come to grips with the reality of Supie's gayness. Really! You of all people! The "yea for gay" poster child. And you insist on Lois Lane as the object of Supie's interest? Poor Lana Lang. ?What about Lex Luthor? Really, Nurv, you have nerve to suggest that only you can interpret the "canon" according to your pet theories and hypotheses. You are clearly a culturally brainwashed individual who cannot appreciate the gayness of Superman. It it's good enough for Jesus, why not Supie? I suspect you hold this opinion from a literalist interpretation of the comic books. You need to move into the pluriform truth of the field of consciousness and beyond the "canon" as interpreted by fundamentalists. Years of academic study have shown that the corpus of the Supie series is actually highly edited and many-artisted and so probably does not contain any relevant reality but the mere injection into an older mysthos of the editors and redactors. So out of touch with current societal mores, you are! I am shocked, shocked I tell you. That Nurv would dare to have any opinion that could possibly conflict with the Charter guaranteed rights to change any and everything to suit any constituency in Canada. And here you are opposing the gaying of Superman from a highly respected gay publication! Who do you think you are coming around with that old mishmash of imposed views that limit the rights of homosexuals to see Supie as one of their own! Tsk, Tsk, Tsk. You are a fundamentalist and literalist, Nurv. ![]() . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. ![]() and you won't be allowed to opt out yourself or your children from mandatory homosexualization so as not to perpetuate this fundamentalistic literalistic interpretation of yours, either...http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jun/06060101.html
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*Cocks head, looks at Inked, mildly amused look on face* Er, something's wrong with Inked. Inked, are you O.K. there little fella?
![]() ![]() Ciao, Nurvi! How are ya, bella? Long timeno see! And YES, YEA for GAY!!!! Down with cruel spirited homophobes, and yea for gay.
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Lotesse, so happy to see you haven't returned to your constituent particles.
I've been waiting for your responses in the Dante thread since I made it above Hell on the first take. If you wish to pose postmodernist constructions on society, there is no reason Supie should be spared. ![]()
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Hasn't there been a recent Gnostic gospel discovered that shed some light on Superman's sexuality?
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I don't need a Gnostic Gospel to tell me about it...
![]() But anyway, gay or nay, Superman is in fact Jewish. ![]()
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Rather, the canonical writers were Jewish!
I don't think Supie was circ'd! (Maybe a kryptonite blade?) ![]()
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(oh, it was just a joke referring to all the ruckus over the Da Vinci code and the Gospel of Judas - both Gnostic-type stuff)
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Warning: This topic is potentially explosive since people who have an opinion tend to resort to namecalling and other abusive behavior if you disagree them. If you're not politically correct, you can expect to be treated like your opinion doesn't count and called names because of it by people advocating Tolerance, which is a double standard because their attitude shows their own intolerance.
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Tolerance is about being accepting of people regardless race, gender, sexual orientation, one's name, religion, age, the country you're from, etc.
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homo=same Phobia= Fear
Saying you Know someone who overcame samew-sex orientation, or that you think same sex cohabitation is wrong is often the kind of coment that gets lableled homophobic. A priest said he was invited to a party and nearly raped by other men. When he complained he was branded homophobic. Complaining that you were nearly raped is not homophobia, and neither is saying same sex cohabitation is wrong. Neither springs from irrational fear of homosexuals |
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(Side note)
Tolerance is an interesting word.....It stems from tolerate, meaning to put up with something bad. Tolerate comes from the latin tolerre, or tolert, which is to bear. Only recently has tolerance become a positive thing.
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However, a priest goes to a party and was almost raped by some men and then called homophobic for reporting the incident? That sounds like something you just made up. ![]() If you didn't make that up, provide a link to a newspaper article. Mercutio, I think tolerance has come to mean tolerating (ie. putting up with something bad) something you don't agree with or is different from yourself. That's why I said I won't tolerate racism, but I will tolerate people who, after having given it serious thought, are not cool with gay marriage. ![]() Quote:
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