Dark side... - Page 3

Lizra · 03-22-2003, 10:27 AM

How deep can a hero be? (IMO) much deeper than a villian, who is usually wrapped up in him/herself. With villians it's usually all about "me". (boring) Something "really bad" happened, (first sick third of a sicko story!

) and turned them down the "Dark Path" years ago. Now we shall be entertained by the shock and "horror" that has come from the deep wound in the twisted tortured mind.(yawn). The villian goes Mwhaaa haa haa, and still isn't happy. Oh the perverted sicko, whatever will he do now. Oh the horror, the "titillation"! (yawn)

Can we have a big group "EWWWWWW"!

Silverstripe · 03-22-2003, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by Laurelyn
Doom and destruction . . . yippee!
I have a majorly twisted mind . . . when I write stories, I have so much fun torturing my characters, and I often kill them. Bwahaha.

Hmmmm. I have a dark side somewhere, but it has gone into hiding at the moment. Anyway, I have major problems killing off my characters, especially if I've become fond of them over the course of the story. Even with the minor characters, I don't like to kill them without reason.

Silverstripe · 03-22-2003, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by Lizra
How deep can a hero be? (IMO) much deeper than a villian, who is usually wrapped up in him/herself. With villians it's usually all about "me". (boring) Something "really bad" happened, (first sick third of a sicko story! ) and turned them down the "Dark Path" years ago. Now we shall be entertained by the shock and "horror" that has come from the deep wound in the twisted tortured mind.(yawn). The villian goes Mwhaaa haa haa, and still isn't happy. Oh the perverted sicko, whatever will he do now. Oh the horror, the "titillation"! (yawn) Can we have a big group "EWWWWWW"!

But the author doesn't have to do the villain that way. I like the minor villains better than the major villains in some ways, because I think they can be "explained" in a larger variety of ways. What about a religious fanatic who really believed that it was not only OKAY to kill non-believers, it was her duty?

Or someone who truly believed that if the heroes triumphed, their entire race/nation would be enslaved or killed? This isn't an unrealistic situation; there are some countries where people are held in ignorance by their governments. In this case, they are trying to defend their (probably) already miserable lives from getting even worse.

How about someone who is a slave, and is only fighting for the villain to win freedom for his family? Okay, now picture that slave as the deadly assassin. You've got a villain who isn't necessarily "all about 'me'."

Starr Polish · 03-22-2003, 01:17 PM

I have a slight interest in all things macabre. I wouldn't say I'm obsessed with it, but there are periods of time when I delve closer to an obsession than others. ::stares at black clothing and pinky holes:: Eh.

I'm hardly gothic, though at times I do lean toward liking that style. I do, however, greatly enjoy some of Poe's work, and Shakespeare's darker things, at times. My favorite Greek play is Antigone, which is fairly tragic. I'm also obsessed with the character Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights.

Writing dark stories, ah, nothing new. I went through a period of time during my freshman year when my stories were chock full of symbolism and characters with suicidal tendencies. None of them ever killed themselves, though. My most recent dark story was written last August, and it had to do with a girl (named Antigone!) who was extremely odd and had talent for writing. Implied abuse was abound in the story, and you found out in the end that the actual reason the bills aren't being paid is because she killed her father while he was watching TV. Weird.

What's stranger is I am actually a fairly average person. I've never attempted suicide, nor have I ever wanted to kill anyone. ::shrug:: I like happy things too.

Aeryn · 03-22-2003, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by Lizra
How deep can a hero be? (IMO) much deeper than a villian, who is usually wrapped up in him/herself. With villians it's usually all about "me". (boring) Something "really bad" happened, (first sick third of a sicko story! ) and turned them down the "Dark Path" years ago. Now we shall be entertained by the shock and "horror" that has come from the deep wound in the twisted tortured mind.(yawn). The villian goes Mwhaaa haa haa, and still isn't happy. Oh the perverted sicko, whatever will he do now. Oh the horror, the "titillation"! (yawn) Can we have a big group "EWWWWWW"!

HAHA! Lizra, funny.

Lizra · 03-22-2003, 09:03 PM

I hope she's not being sarcastic!

Aeryn · 03-22-2003, 09:59 PM

What if I was?

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-22-2003, 10:00 PM

Then Lizra will go Bathory on you!

Just kidding, of course.

LuthienTinuviel · 03-22-2003, 10:10 PM

dark side as in, Dr.Evil, or dark side as in paganism?

gwaimir, where did you get that icon? it rocks my socks.

Lizra · 03-22-2003, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by Aeryn
What if I was?

Then you weren't amused! I wonder who Bathory is!

I think I'll "power up" my shield of goodness and light now!

Aeryn · 03-22-2003, 10:15 PM

Lizra, those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

Muahahahahhh

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-22-2003, 10:50 PM

I got it from some site. I think it was imladris.nu/el_choose

Insidious Rex · 03-23-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by LuthienTinuviel
dark side as in, Dr.Evil, or dark side as in paganism?

paganism is dark?

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-23-2003, 01:40 AM

I think that certain Mooters would disagree...

Occult is dark.

LuthienTinuviel · 03-23-2003, 04:05 PM

THAT'S the word i was looking for gwaimir.
silly me, i seem to have reverted back into my state of mind in 6th grade, must be the stress that's making me giddy.

Lief Erikson · 03-23-2003, 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by Silverstripe
But the author doesn't have to do the villain that way. I like the minor villains better than the major villains in some ways, because I think they can be "explained" in a larger variety of ways. What about a religious fanatic who really believed that it was not only OKAY to kill non-believers, it was her duty?

Ah yes, but it isn't only the minor villains who have to behave in that way. Major villains don't have to be unreasonable or unexplained. None of my main bad characters had inborn tendencies toward evil or violent behavior- all of them turned that way through circumstances in their lives. My minor villains tend to actually have a little less excuse in that way than my major villains, for they deliberately chose this path without outside events in their lives effecting them. The minor villains are deceived, but they have less excuse for being deceived.

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Originally posted by Silverstripe
Or someone who truly believed that if the heroes triumphed, their entire race/nation would be enslaved or killed? This isn't an unrealistic situation; there are some countries where people are held in ignorance by their governments. In this case, they are trying to defend their (probably) already miserable lives from getting even worse.

How about someone who is a slave, and is only fighting for the villain to win freedom for his family? Okay, now picture that slave as the deadly assassin. You've got a villain who isn't necessarily "all about 'me'."

Those villains probably wouldn't even be real villains, though they might be perceived so by the opposing side (The heroes). The reader will know and understand the perspective of these villains, and will be sympathetic, though also very tense.

TinuvielChild · 03-23-2003, 11:55 PM

Is anybody here into BDSM?

One of my best friends loves erotic asphyxiation...*shudder* I can't stand not being able to breathe, definitely not for me. But I must say, I love blood. It's pretty, and red, and warm, but it goes all sticky when it dries.

It tastes good, too.

I love Poe! The Pit and the Pendulum is my favorite Poe story...or The Cask of Amontillado. Mm, morbid authors...yum.

For some reason, I don't normally read dark or angsty fanfics, although I have been known to write them. My favorite type of weather is gray, overcast, misty days, although I hardly ever dress in black, and none of my friends would describe me as a goth.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-24-2003, 12:00 AM

Yes indeedy; Poe rocks!

I agree, I love misty weather, though it doesn't have anything to do with dark side; more the mysterious/magical/mystical appearance it gives. I can really imagine a misty stand of trees is a faerie wood.

BDSM?

cassiopeia · 03-24-2003, 01:37 AM

BDSM = Bondage-Sadomasochism. Yuck, I hate that.

I do like angst, I derive some kind of pleasure from reading and writing it. I think I will have to read some Poe stories now.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-24-2003, 01:41 AM

In other words, enjoying dealing and receiving pain while being bound.

I'll pass.

03-22-2003, 10:27 AM	#41
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	How deep can a hero be? (IMO) much deeper than a villian, who is usually wrapped up in him/herself. With villians it's usually all about "me". (boring) Something "really bad" happened, (first sick third of a sicko story! ) and turned them down the "Dark Path" years ago. Now we shall be entertained by the shock and "horror" that has come from the deep wound in the twisted tortured mind.(yawn). The villian goes Mwhaaa haa haa, and still isn't happy. Oh the perverted sicko, whatever will he do now. Oh the horror, the "titillation"! (yawn) Can we have a big group "EWWWWWW"! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats! Last edited by Lizra : 03-22-2003 at 10:30 AM.

03-22-2003, 01:17 PM	#44
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	I have a slight interest in all things macabre. I wouldn't say I'm obsessed with it, but there are periods of time when I delve closer to an obsession than others. ::stares at black clothing and pinky holes:: Eh. I'm hardly gothic, though at times I do lean toward liking that style. I do, however, greatly enjoy some of Poe's work, and Shakespeare's darker things, at times. My favorite Greek play is Antigone, which is fairly tragic. I'm also obsessed with the character Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights. Writing dark stories, ah, nothing new. I went through a period of time during my freshman year when my stories were chock full of symbolism and characters with suicidal tendencies. None of them ever killed themselves, though. My most recent dark story was written last August, and it had to do with a girl (named Antigone!) who was extremely odd and had talent for writing. Implied abuse was abound in the story, and you found out in the end that the actual reason the bills aren't being paid is because she killed her father while he was watching TV. Weird. What's stranger is I am actually a fairly average person. I've never attempted suicide, nor have I ever wanted to kill anyone. ::shrug:: I like happy things too. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-22-2003, 09:03 PM	#46
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	I hope she's not being sarcastic! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

03-22-2003, 09:59 PM	#47
Aeryn Bank'ress of Sith Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a hot-hot place, heh Posts: 913	What if I was? __________________ my new account name feigndeath. This one is deactivated, I think.

03-22-2003, 10:00 PM	#48
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Then Lizra will go Bathory on you! Just kidding, of course. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-22-2003, 10:10 PM	#49
LuthienTinuviel protector of orphaned rabbits Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kalamazoo... yes, its a real place! Posts: 1,236	dark side as in, Dr.Evil, or dark side as in paganism? gwaimir, where did you get that icon? it rocks my socks. __________________

03-22-2003, 10:15 PM	#51
Aeryn Bank'ress of Sith Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a hot-hot place, heh Posts: 913	Lizra, those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't. Muahahahahhh __________________ my new account name feigndeath. This one is deactivated, I think.

03-22-2003, 10:50 PM	#52
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I got it from some site. I think it was imladris.nu/el_choose __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-23-2003, 01:40 AM	#54
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I think that certain Mooters would disagree... Occult is dark. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-23-2003, 04:05 PM	#55
LuthienTinuviel protector of orphaned rabbits Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kalamazoo... yes, its a real place! Posts: 1,236	THAT'S the word i was looking for gwaimir. silly me, i seem to have reverted back into my state of mind in 6th grade, must be the stress that's making me giddy. __________________

03-23-2003, 11:55 PM	#57
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	Is anybody here into BDSM? One of my best friends loves erotic asphyxiation...shudder I can't stand not being able to breathe, definitely not for me. But I must say, I love blood. It's pretty, and red, and warm, but it goes all sticky when it dries. It tastes good, too. I love Poe! The Pit and the Pendulum is my favorite Poe story...or The Cask of Amontillado. Mm, morbid authors...yum. For some reason, I don't normally read dark or angsty fanfics, although I have been known to write them. My favorite type of weather is gray, overcast, misty days, although I hardly ever dress in black, and none of my friends would describe me as a goth. __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

03-24-2003, 12:00 AM	#58
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Yes indeedy; Poe rocks! I agree, I love misty weather, though it doesn't have anything to do with dark side; more the mysterious/magical/mystical appearance it gives. I can really imagine a misty stand of trees is a faerie wood. BDSM? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-24-2003, 01:37 AM	#59
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	BDSM = Bondage-Sadomasochism. Yuck, I hate that. I do like angst, I derive some kind of pleasure from reading and writing it. I think I will have to read some Poe stories now. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

03-24-2003, 01:41 AM	#60
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	In other words, enjoying dealing and receiving pain while being bound. I'll pass. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

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