Two towers sex scean????? - Page 3

Sween · 11-19-2002, 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by Amandil
What does teaching at (or "going to") Oxford have to do with one's own beliefs about premarital sex?

Just means that he would only aparove of all the boys on tour lovin

bropous · 11-19-2002, 09:40 AM

"Come on, who are you kidding. Tolks went to Oxford University remember."

This individual knows very little of the Oxford of Tolkien's day. Nor does he know much of Tolkien's closely-held beliefs. A good reading of "Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien" may shed some relevant light.

Wayfarer, good quotes there, but in no way do they indicate sex. They reflect more of the "courtly love" of the old epics, the old chivalric ideal, not blatant (or even intimated) sex.

Kissing, hugging, holding close, yes. Sex? Nopers. Maybe that was your point, though.

I need more coffee.

Wayfarer · 11-19-2002, 01:30 PM

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Wayfarer, good quotes there, but in no way do they indicate sex. They reflect more of the "courtly love" of the old epics, the old chivalric ideal, not blatant (or even intimated) sex

I would say that...

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it's...understated, not explicit.

Indeed, I agree with you. And I, personally, enjoyed Beren and Luthien's romance far more than any other I've ever read about. Han and Leia were great, but not that great.

Allright, here's a question: If you had the choice of being in Beren's place, or being in any other fictianal romance (say-rand Al'Thor), who would you pick?

Nilore · 11-19-2002, 01:38 PM

Why is everyone suggesting that Legolas is GAY!!!

Nilore

zavron · 11-19-2002, 01:47 PM

Hmmm...I've seen the pictures and I think they do have a bit of flashy hanky-panky in there! look at the picture!

I mean what are they doing lying down on a bed!!! With Arwen on top an all!!!!

zavron · 11-19-2002, 01:54 PM

strange how in this picture the camera automatically goes to her breasts!

BeardofPants · 11-19-2002, 02:35 PM

Brop: While it's true that Letters dispells any hints that Tolkien was anything but an upstanding citizen and all that, Oxford WAS at that time, a lot more liberal towards homosexuality.

Andúril · 11-19-2002, 02:41 PM

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Nilore:
Why is everyone suggesting that Legolas is GAY!!!

Are you suggesting that he isn't? Just because you dream of Legolump, doesn't mean he isn't a poepol-pirate, anal-avenger and/or bum-bandit.

Miranda · 11-19-2002, 04:41 PM

How many hearts have you just broken?!!!!!!!!!! But I have to agree that the long blond hair doesn't do a lot for the "I'm not gay" image. Although Orlando himself is a very different story- MIAOW. Mind you I like the slightly feminine elf look, I wouldn't mind running my fingers through that hair!!!! So excited- this time next month I will be in a theatre watching the film- I can hardly believe it!!! I'M SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mx

starofelendil · 11-19-2002, 05:54 PM

The song is i am the walrus by my favorite band the beatles

Its Aragorn and Arwen sexin' if anything... watch the trailer. But all the movies have to be rated PG-13.

Sween · 11-19-2002, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by starofelendil
The song is i am the walrus by my favorite band the beatles

Its Aragorn and Arwen sexin' if anything... watch the trailer. But all the movies have to be rated PG-13.

we have a winner

cassiopeia · 11-19-2002, 10:08 PM

One of the reasons I love the LOTR is because there is no explicit sex scenes and such; there is so much in TV and movies these days one gets sick of it. The lay of Leithan is beautiful, one of my favorite works of Tolkien.

I'm getting really sick of people saying Legolas is gay.

Crazy people out there.......

starofelendil: there is a Beatles thread in the Entertainment forum if you would like to post something.

I think that picture of Arwen and Aragorn is when he is dying at the end of ROTK. But then I'm probably wrong.

jerseydevil · 11-19-2002, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by cassiopeia

I think that picture of Arwen and Aragorn is when he is dying at the end of ROTK. But then I'm probably wrong.

I saw that scene that is in that picture in the new Two Towers preview.

Dunadan · 11-20-2002, 05:22 AM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants
Brop: While it's true that Letters dispells any hints that Tolkien was anything but an upstanding citizen and all that, Oxford WAS at that time, a lot more liberal towards homosexuality.

I live in Oxford, and can vouch for the fact that everyone here is gay.

Seriously though, that makes no sense at all. Oxford is, and always has been, about as liberal as Attila the Hun.

bropous · 11-20-2002, 10:57 AM

"Brop: While it's true that Letters dispells any hints that Tolkien was anything but an upstanding citizen and all that, Oxford WAS at that time, a lot more liberal towards homosexuality."

BoP, what is it with your obsession with homosexuality? Who said anything about homosexuality?

The question was on premarital sex, my dear Kiwi, and homosexuality had nothing to do with the discussion, at least as it pertains to the points I was addressing.

I think I got caught in the crossfire here. Check your target, belay firing orders!

BeardofPants · 11-20-2002, 02:19 PM

Who said I was obsessed with homosexuality? (There, right back at ya.

) Blame Sween, he brought it up.

Amandil · 11-20-2002, 04:44 PM

Legolas isn't gay, he just looks that way in the friggin movie...

bropous · 11-20-2002, 06:44 PM

...then your comments regarding homosexuality should have been addressed to Sween, BoP, and not to me.

Lollypopgurl · 11-20-2002, 11:10 PM

I dunno about a sex scene... It's rated PG-13.

Shadowfax · 11-20-2002, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Lollypopgurl
I dunno about a sex scene... It's rated PG-13.

We've already gone over that...it was a mistake.

11-19-2002, 09:40 AM	#42
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	"Come on, who are you kidding. Tolks went to Oxford University remember." This individual knows very little of the Oxford of Tolkien's day. Nor does he know much of Tolkien's closely-held beliefs. A good reading of "Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien" may shed some relevant light. Wayfarer, good quotes there, but in no way do they indicate sex. They reflect more of the "courtly love" of the old epics, the old chivalric ideal, not blatant (or even intimated) sex. Kissing, hugging, holding close, yes. Sex? Nopers. Maybe that was your point, though. I need more coffee. __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160. Last edited by bropous : 11-19-2002 at 09:43 AM.

11-19-2002, 01:38 PM	#44
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11-19-2002, 01:54 PM	#46
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11-19-2002, 02:35 PM	#47
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Brop: While it's true that Letters dispells any hints that Tolkien was anything but an upstanding citizen and all that, Oxford WAS at that time, a lot more liberal towards homosexuality. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

11-19-2002, 05:54 PM	#50
starofelendil Sapling Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USA! Posts: 5	SEX! The song is i am the walrus by my favorite band the beatles Its Aragorn and Arwen sexin' if anything... watch the trailer. But all the movies have to be rated PG-13. __________________ ~Star of Elendil~ Elrond raised his eyes and looked at him......... "This is the hour of the Shire-folk, when they arise from their quiet fields, to shake the towers and counsels of the Great. Who of all the Wise could have foreseen it?"

11-19-2002, 04:41 PM	#49
Miranda 'Bohemian princess of Covent Garden Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Mill Posts: 544	How many hearts have you just broken?!!!!!!!!!! But I have to agree that the long blond hair doesn't do a lot for the "I'm not gay" image. Although Orlando himself is a very different story- MIAOW. Mind you I like the slightly feminine elf look, I wouldn't mind running my fingers through that hair!!!! So excited- this time next month I will be in a theatre watching the film- I can hardly believe it!!! I'M SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mx

11-19-2002, 10:08 PM	#52
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	One of the reasons I love the LOTR is because there is no explicit sex scenes and such; there is so much in TV and movies these days one gets sick of it. The lay of Leithan is beautiful, one of my favorite works of Tolkien. I'm getting really sick of people saying Legolas is gay. Crazy people out there....... starofelendil: there is a Beatles thread in the Entertainment forum if you would like to post something. I think that picture of Arwen and Aragorn is when he is dying at the end of ROTK. But then I'm probably wrong. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

11-20-2002, 10:57 AM	#55
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	"Brop: While it's true that Letters dispells any hints that Tolkien was anything but an upstanding citizen and all that, Oxford WAS at that time, a lot more liberal towards homosexuality." BoP, what is it with your obsession with homosexuality? Who said anything about homosexuality? The question was on premarital sex, my dear Kiwi, and homosexuality had nothing to do with the discussion, at least as it pertains to the points I was addressing. I think I got caught in the crossfire here. Check your target, belay firing orders! __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

11-20-2002, 02:19 PM	#56
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Who said I was obsessed with homosexuality? (There, right back at ya. ) Blame Sween, he brought it up. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

11-20-2002, 04:44 PM	#57
Amandil Guy-who-should-come-here-more-often Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Alberta, in spirit -- Vlaanderen, in body (Canada? Never heard of it!) Posts: 120	Legolas isn't gay, he just looks that way in the friggin movie... __________________ Amandil Mithadan "Why would you want to tamper with anything Tolkien did?" --Ralph Bashki "Seeking self, I find nothing but myself, but in this I drink the cup of gall I really am. I want everything, and I may have everything, but I have nothing except what I have. What I have I know is not what will fulfill me, and I know this in the bitterness of satisfied desire. Everything I have is still not enough, and in getting everything I have, I have not myself, indeed what I have may have twisted what I am and might be into an image of my own possessions. I will to possess, but I end up possessed by what I possess." -- William Desmond (Ethics and the Between, p. 209-210)

11-20-2002, 06:44 PM	#58
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	...then your comments regarding homosexuality should have been addressed to Sween, BoP, and not to me. __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

11-20-2002, 11:10 PM	#59
Lollypopgurl Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 222	I dunno about a sex scene... It's rated PG-13. __________________ a violinist...

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