Light Of Evil - Page 3

***Tessar*** · 04-11-2002, 09:03 PM

Tater,
calm down!

seeing the movie was the first step! and I remember how insulted you were when someone said mean stuff about your artwork.
nuff said.

Well I thought the story was creative.

Darth Tater · 04-11-2002, 09:16 PM

I wasn't offended by the fanfic per say, except that it annoys me when people try to put themselves in this world that some of us have been studying for years now, when they don't even really know what it's like. Tessar, I can't ever remember being offended by constructive critism, or even when my Galadriel was insulted in a non-constructive manner. Other's spoke up on my behalf about that.

Rána Eressëa · 04-11-2002, 09:22 PM

I don't like the redundance. Honestly, it slays me! A lot of other people get tired of it, too, but I think the last thing any of us can handle is another romance fan-fic. It just lacks any potential interest and creativity. We mostly want suspense, action, and a conflict of life and death between avouched enemies! Or is that just me?

And I agree with Darth: we've been reading and studying this world for quite a long time, and you really have to be exposed to the books in order to truly understand it.

Darth Tater · 04-11-2002, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rána Eressëa
And I agree with Darth: we've been reading and studying this world for quite a long time, and you really have to be exposed to the books in order to truly understand it.

I agree, except i'd replace "truly understand" with "even begin to comprehend" but I'm an extremist

Rána Eressëa · 04-11-2002, 09:56 PM

Either way you put it: it deals with somewhat knowing what Middle-earth is about. A movie isn't going to tell you, nor show you that. You have to read it from the original source: the book.

Laurelyn · 04-12-2002, 06:13 AM

Whoa . . . I hadn't really read this thread before. Yikes.
I'm gonna have nightmares for weeks, Tater!
Because, I hope you realize that I am out if you go by your guidelines. I've only been obsessed for about a year; so I haven't studied Tolkien's works like maybe you have. So you don't want me here, do you? You don't have time for semi-depressed 12-yr-old girls, do you? You'd rather talk with the elite group of folk who read LotR 20 years ago and have studied the details and little itty bitty things since then.
Well, then, good for you. I don't even wanna be some elite Tolkien- goddess, and stick up my nose at all the people who are trying to learn. No, they're no good, huh? Just because they don't instantly get lots of knowledge means they're lowly scum-beings. You know, even you were a newbie once.Everybody has to start somewhere, or they'll never learn a dratted thing.

Now look, you've gone and made me mad.

Oh, wait, I forgot. You don't care about me . . . Namarie.
(That wasn't intended to be a flame, I'm just seriously mad. Sorry)

Arathorn · 04-12-2002, 06:22 AM

That's it. I'm leaving...

I'll be back after my coffee break(Mmmmm...caffeine).

***Tessar*** · 04-12-2002, 08:38 AM

good one Arathorn

I agree with Laura, if not using quite the same wording

, my feelings are still the same.

I mean I have only read the hobbit (the book not tristons autobiography

) and FOTR, the rest were read to me and the rest of my family by my dad, but I left at several points because I was tired of it taking them 5000 words to say "I love you" "but I don't love you".

I enjoy some tolken but not all of it.

as a rule, if I had to choose between reading LOTR and seeing the movies, I would probably see the movie.

sorry if I'm not a dedicated fan, I'll go if you hate all tolken "wanabe" fans.

Elfmaster XK · 04-12-2002, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arathorn
That's it. I'm leaving...
I'll be back after my coffee break(Mmmmm...caffeine).

I hear ya! Caffine...the sustinence (sp?) of the sleepless.

Definition of fan : someone who admires or is enthusiastic about something.

Defintion of Fanatic : someone who's enthusiasm for something is extreme.

Fan : Tessar, Laurelyn

Fanatic : Tater.

I believe both are welcome here if discussion abouit the subject is what they want. Though i do think reading the books is a good start if you come on a tolkien message board.

Imbequareiel · 04-12-2002, 12:12 PM

scratches head warily Oookay, I made a seriously huge mistake by coming here, and I probably will never post anymore either.

I will say Tater, that I'm soo glad I don't know you in real life seeing as how I probably will never like you.

I shall return to my staus of official lurker.

BeardofPants · 04-12-2002, 12:19 PM

There, but for the tact of Tater, goes another one.

Cue: Another one bites the dust....

Elfmaster XK · 04-12-2002, 12:23 PM

I dont think tater is trying to scare y'all away, on the other hand...

*joins BoP in singing the song*

Firalphien · 04-12-2002, 01:35 PM

Oooh... coffee sounds so good right now. And some easter chocolate to go along with it (I have tons of that!)

Imbequareiel don't leave us, I know you're probably still reading the posts....

Starr Polish · 04-12-2002, 02:02 PM

Firalphian, I'm a writer too! You do sound like you have talent (probably more than I do), but you have to remember that not everyone is going to like your work, and that fanfiction, especially for something as deeply studied as Tolkien's works, gets a lot of bad rap.

Never stop writing, no matter what anyone says, just be prepared to hear a lot of stuff you don't want to.

Comic Book Guy · 04-12-2002, 02:25 PM

Tessaract12 and Laurelyn, sometimes it helps to read Taters posts.

Tessaract12, looks like you have developed an interesting theory about the message of Lord of the Rings, looks like you are the bigger fan than you thought.

Elf Girl · 04-12-2002, 03:07 PM

Firalphian, you don't need to apoligize! This topic has been festering on Entmoot for a while, and anything will make us go up in flames. Anyway, the story is well written, which is the important thing, and Firalphian didn't know that she was accidentaly touching on a sore topic with fanfiction, so you needn't get mad at her. This board is a board for those who are fans of Tolkien. Firalphian explicitely said that she had not read the books but couldn't wait to, she said she would edit it once she had read LotR, that this was only a rough draft. She was very brave to post a rough draft, knowing she had only seen the movies, and I respect her for it! (I can't stand to let anyone see my drafts.

)

Firalphian, I hope this thread isn't giving you a bad impression of Entmoot, we aren't usually as hard on people.

Elfhelm · 04-12-2002, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tessar

tired of it taking them 5000 words to say "I love you" "but I don't love you".

But things like this do sorta make you see Darth tater's point, don't they? I mean, if that's how you feel, why are you here? Why don't you go to some Tolkien-hater place or something?

Darth Tater · 04-12-2002, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elfhelm

But things like this do sorta make you see Darth tater's point, don't they? I mean, if that's how you feel, why are you here? Why don't you go to some Tolkien-hater place or something?

Exactly. If you folks actually read my posts, like CBG said, you'd see I didn't say you had to be a fanatic, just that this is a board for fans of Tolkien, specifically his work LOTR, and if you haven't read that there's really no point in you being here.

Elfhelm · 04-12-2002, 05:01 PM

Or at least, don't misrepresent Tolkien!

Menelvagor · 04-12-2002, 05:13 PM

*enters thread, is blown away by blaring music: Another one bites the dust...* Woah! What happened here?

I agree with Elf Girl's last post.

I would just say that this might have been better recieved had it been in the LotR Movies forum, just to make it clear that it was a movieverse fic.

Firalphien and Imbequareiel, don't stop writing or posting, the admins just get a little cranky sometimes when they haven't had their coffee.

*switches music to 'Don't worry, be happy...'*

04-11-2002, 09:16 PM	#42
Darth Tater The man Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: MA Posts: 4,572	I wasn't offended by the fanfic per say, except that it annoys me when people try to put themselves in this world that some of us have been studying for years now, when they don't even really know what it's like. Tessar, I can't ever remember being offended by constructive critism, or even when my Galadriel was insulted in a non-constructive manner. Other's spoke up on my behalf about that. __________________ Visit the worlds greatest webpage! No, not The Tolkien Trail! Just click this! The Tolkien Trail ~Camelot

04-11-2002, 09:22 PM	#43
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	I don't like the redundance. Honestly, it slays me! A lot of other people get tired of it, too, but I think the last thing any of us can handle is another romance fan-fic. It just lacks any potential interest and creativity. We mostly want suspense, action, and a conflict of life and death between avouched enemies! Or is that just me? And I agree with Darth: we've been reading and studying this world for quite a long time, and you really have to be exposed to the books in order to truly understand it. Last edited by Rána Eressëa : 04-11-2002 at 09:27 PM.

04-12-2002, 06:13 AM	#46
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	Whoa . . . I hadn't really read this thread before. Yikes. I'm gonna have nightmares for weeks, Tater! Because, I hope you realize that I am out if you go by your guidelines. I've only been obsessed for about a year; so I haven't studied Tolkien's works like maybe you have. So you don't want me here, do you? You don't have time for semi-depressed 12-yr-old girls, do you? You'd rather talk with the elite group of folk who read LotR 20 years ago and have studied the details and little itty bitty things since then. Well, then, good for you. I don't even wanna be some elite Tolkien- goddess, and stick up my nose at all the people who are trying to learn. No, they're no good, huh? Just because they don't instantly get lots of knowledge means they're lowly scum-beings. You know, even you were a newbie once.Everybody has to start somewhere, or they'll never learn a dratted thing. Now look, you've gone and made me mad. Oh, wait, I forgot. You don't care about me . . . Namarie. (That wasn't intended to be a flame, I'm just seriously mad. Sorry) __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

04-12-2002, 06:22 AM	#47
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	That's it. I'm leaving... I'll be back after my coffee break(Mmmmm...caffeine). __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures... Last edited by Arathorn : 04-12-2002 at 06:51 AM.

04-12-2002, 12:19 PM	#51
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	There, but for the tact of Tater, goes another one. Cue: Another one bites the dust.... __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

04-11-2002, 09:03 PM	#41
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Tater, calm down! seeing the movie was the first step! and I remember how insulted you were when someone said mean stuff about your artwork. nuff said. Well I thought the story was creative.

04-11-2002, 09:56 PM	#45
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	Either way you put it: it deals with somewhat knowing what Middle-earth is about. A movie isn't going to tell you, nor show you that. You have to read it from the original source: the book.

04-12-2002, 08:38 AM	#48
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	good one Arathorn I agree with Laura, if not using quite the same wording , my feelings are still the same. I mean I have only read the hobbit (the book not tristons autobiography ) and FOTR, the rest were read to me and the rest of my family by my dad, but I left at several points because I was tired of it taking them 5000 words to say "I love you" "but I don't love you". I enjoy some tolken but not all of it. as a rule, if I had to choose between reading LOTR and seeing the movies, I would probably see the movie. sorry if I'm not a dedicated fan, I'll go if you hate all tolken "wanabe" fans.

04-12-2002, 12:12 PM	#50
Imbequareiel Sapling Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3	scratches head warily Oookay, I made a seriously huge mistake by coming here, and I probably will never post anymore either. I will say Tater, that I'm soo glad I don't know you in real life seeing as how I probably will never like you. I shall return to my staus of official lurker.

04-12-2002, 12:23 PM	#52
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	I dont think tater is trying to scare y'all away, on the other hand... joins BoP in singing the song __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

04-12-2002, 01:35 PM	#53
Firalphien Hobbit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18	Oooh... coffee sounds so good right now. And some easter chocolate to go along with it (I have tons of that!) Imbequareiel don't leave us, I know you're probably still reading the posts....

04-12-2002, 02:02 PM	#54
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Firalphian, I'm a writer too! You do sound like you have talent (probably more than I do), but you have to remember that not everyone is going to like your work, and that fanfiction, especially for something as deeply studied as Tolkien's works, gets a lot of bad rap. Never stop writing, no matter what anyone says, just be prepared to hear a lot of stuff you don't want to. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

04-12-2002, 02:25 PM	#55
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Tessaract12 and Laurelyn, sometimes it helps to read Taters posts. Tessaract12, looks like you have developed an interesting theory about the message of Lord of the Rings, looks like you are the bigger fan than you thought.

04-12-2002, 03:07 PM	#56
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	Firalphian, you don't need to apoligize! This topic has been festering on Entmoot for a while, and anything will make us go up in flames. Anyway, the story is well written, which is the important thing, and Firalphian didn't know that she was accidentaly touching on a sore topic with fanfiction, so you needn't get mad at her. This board is a board for those who are fans of Tolkien. Firalphian explicitely said that she had not read the books but couldn't wait to, she said she would edit it once she had read LotR, that this was only a rough draft. She was very brave to post a rough draft, knowing she had only seen the movies, and I respect her for it! (I can't stand to let anyone see my drafts. ) Firalphian, I hope this thread isn't giving you a bad impression of Entmoot, we aren't usually as hard on people. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

04-12-2002, 05:01 PM	#59
Elfhelm Marshal of the Eastmark Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,412	Or at least, don't misrepresent Tolkien! __________________ cya

04-12-2002, 05:13 PM	#60
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	enters thread, is blown away by blaring music: Another one bites the dust... Woah! What happened here? I agree with Elf Girl's last post. I would just say that this might have been better recieved had it been in the LotR Movies forum, just to make it clear that it was a movieverse fic. Firalphien and Imbequareiel, don't stop writing or posting, the admins just get a little cranky sometimes when they haven't had their coffee. switches music to 'Don't worry, be happy...'

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