The United Nations

[Spock]

They do good charity work.
They don't spend the money well (too much corruption) but some of it actually gets to the people in need.

Rent is cheaper in Paris; MOVE.

[hectorberlioz]

Can somebody tell me more about the allegations that some UN peacekeepers have been "trading sex for food"?

[Spock]

SEE THIS
http://www.echolist.com/world/2006/may/news110426.html
or
http://www.peacewomen.org/un/pkwatch/pknews.html

there are more sites, but this will get you information

[hectorberlioz]

Originally Posted by Spock

SEE THIS
http://www.echolist.com/world/2006/may/news110426.html
or
http://www.peacewomen.org/un/pkwatch/pknews.html

there are more sites, but this will get you information

Infuriating ...I wonder what Kofi Annan is doing? Accusing Israel of murder of course....

[brownjenkins]

War always hurts the civilians the most, on both sides of the conflict. But the leaders rarely remember that.

[Spock]

I can't believe that after 28 years of doing nothing, Israel gave in and agreed to let UN mixed troops into the buffer zone. UN troops have never solved one conflict and sure as heck have aided a few.

[Earniel]

In any case Israel hasn't done such a fine job in solving the situation either IMO. I think in this situation the involvement of the UN is better, even if it's darn slow and tame.

[Spock]

hmmm, Israel didn't create the situation remember THE ABDUCTED soldiers

[The Gaffer]

Yes, and the "operation" to free them was a great success, wasn't it?

[Butterbeer]

Originally Posted by Spock

hmmm, Israel didn't create the situation remember THE ABDUCTED soldiers

Forgive me if i am wrong, but there was a little more background history behind the whole state of affairs, if i recall ...

So ... the blue hatted comedians are turning up eh?
mmmm ....


will there be spontaneous street-parties do you think? Will it all be over by Christmas? Is this the start of a new dawn for mankind?

Is this UN force going to be half muslim and half western? Will it be lead bt british or US (therefore not impartial) . Will it have any power to shoot both sides at the drop of a feather if it wants to? (With air strike capability and gunship aircover?)

Otherwise as most UN forces it'll be a joke!

[Earniel]

Originally Posted by Spock

hmmm, Israel didn't create the situation remember THE ABDUCTED soldiers

Didn't say that, now did I? I'm just saying that bombing Libanon back to the Stone Age isn't such a wonderful, all-solving solution either. Remember Qana.

I'm not too happy about the Exxon Valdez re-enactment they did in the Meditterrean either.

[Spock]

Originally Posted by Butterbeer

Forgive me if i am wrong, but there was a little more background history behind the whole state of affairs, if i recall ...

Yep, the Arabs hate Israel.

Originally Posted by Butterbeer

So ... the blue hatted comedians are turning up eh?
mmmm ....

unfortunately they aren't much use for anything-they can't even tell good jokes.

Originally Posted by Butterbeer

will there be spontaneous street-parties do you think? Will it all be over by Christmas? Is this the start of a new dawn for mankind?

I'm afraid it might start all over and worse by then. Israel make a huge mistake by stopping this time.

Originally Posted by Butterbeer

Is this UN force going to be half muslim and half western? Will it be lead bt british or US (therefore not impartial) . Will it have any power to shoot both sides at the drop of a feather if it wants to? (With air strike capability and gunship aircover?)

It was said THE FRENCH would bolster the 15, 000 dancing Lebonese army people ....ooooooo scary, scary...... I don't think they will be allowed to shoot at Hezbollah. First of all, they would have to go through a long period of learning what a gun IS!

Originally Posted by Butterbeer

Otherwise as most UN forces it'll be a joke!

Indeed!

[Spock]

Originally Posted by Eärniel

Didn't say that, now did I?

Actually you did:

Originally Posted by Eärniel

In any case Israel hasn't done such a fine job in solving the situation either IMO. I think in this situation the involvement of the UN is better, even if it's darn slow and tame.

Originally Posted by Eärniel

I'm just saying that bombing Libanon back to the Stone Age isn't such a wonderful, all-solving solution either.

They were barely past the stone age before so it isn't that big a trip.

Originally Posted by Eärniel

I'm not too happy about the Exxon Valdez re-enactment they did in the Meditterrean either.

Good one. War should be neater.

[Earniel]

Originally Posted by Spock

Actually you did:

Actually, no, I didn't. I said they hadn't done a great job solving the situation, I never said they created the whole situation. There's a difference between the two.

They were barely past the stone age before so it isn't that big a trip.

I don't find that particularly funny. At all.

Good one. War should be neater.

No, people should bloody think before they just start shooting and dropping bombs on other countries.

[Spock]

Originally Posted by Eärniel

Actually, no, I didn't. I said they hadn't done a great job solving the situation, I never said they created the whole situation. There's a difference between the two.

Actually you did by implication.

Originally Posted by Eärniel

In any case Israel hasn't done such a fine job in solving the situation either IMO.

They can't be expected to SOLVE a situation they didn't create. I agree they didn't achieve their purpose.

Originally Posted by Eärniel

I don't find that particularly funny. At all.

That's ok, we're not expected to have the same outlook or philosophies.

Originally Posted by Eärniel

No, people should bloody think before they just start shooting and dropping bombs on other countries.

Well Hezbollah is people and deys shootin dem rockits all down on dem Israels peoples, go yell at dem!

[Grey_Wolf]

I am particularly tired of it being on the news day out and day in - enough already. It does not help anybody to be bombarded with what palestinians did to today and what the isralies did in return and vice versa and so and so on forever and ever and ever.

The greatest mistake the UN ever did was to give the land to the jews. OK - they had been thru hell in WWII - but does that really entitle them to world wide pity forever.

And the Palestinians - did they really do anything worthwile in that country they consider theirs except raise sheep. No wateringprojects for the culturing of the countryside, just sitting about caring for their livestock.

Am I right or am I right?

[Spock]

Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf

I am particularly tired of it being on the news day out and day in - enough already. It does not help anybody to be bombarded with what palestinians did to today and what the isralies did in return and vice versa and so and so on forever and ever and ever.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf

The greatest mistake the UN ever did was to give the land to the jews. OK - they had been thru hell in WWII - but does that really entitle them to world wide pity forever.

A tiny bit of land that no one wanted and was mostly desert, for a people who have been searching for a home for thousands of years; I beg to differ. . Pity has never been sought, understanding has.

Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf

And the Palestinians - did they really do anything worthwile in that country they consider theirs except raise sheep. No wateringprojects for the culturing of the countryside, just sitting about caring for their livestock.

100% CORRECT!

[Jonathan]

Never realised you can't spell Jerusalem without USA

[Earniel]

Originally Posted by Spock

Actually you did by implication.

I did no such thing. What I may imply and what you may think I imply are, once again, two different things. And I never implied -nor ever will- that Israel is solely to blame for the current situation. It would be ignorant to do so too.

They can't be expected to SOLVE a situation they didn't create.

Yet they are not without blame whatsoever and if they want the problem solved, they'll have to be part of the solution too.

Well Hezbollah is people and deys shootin dem rockits all down on dem Israels peoples, go yell at dem!

Dem are terrorists. Which -believe me- does fall into my book of bloody stupid bastards and more beside which the Entmoot cencors may not allow.

But I think I may at least expect a westernised, civilised, democratic nation such as Israel to behave better than terrorists.

And I see we're going off-topic so that's the last I'm going to say about that here.

[Insidious Rex]

Originally Posted by Spock

They were barely past the stone age before so it isn't that big a trip.

Clearly you have never been to any of the four star hotels and restaurants and resorts in Beirut. It had become a big vacation destination. But then them small petty arab folk dont know how to live civilized like now do they...