04-19-2007, 03:21 PM | #41 | |
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6=4+2 6=2+4 6=3+3 6=5=1 6=1+5 6=10-4 6=16-10 6=2x3 6=3x2 6=1x6..... Which of these is the perfect answer?
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04-19-2007, 03:46 PM | #42 | |
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The others consist of more than one part. Which means they are less than perfect. 6=6 was left out of the running... but then a tautology is pretty constrained... much like a perfect being would be...
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04-19-2007, 07:51 PM | #43 | |
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04-20-2007, 10:15 AM | #44 | |
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"Why would perfection be more an entire human being than scattered body parts?" "Why would perfection be more an auto than scattered bits of metal?" because the sum is more than the parts... A rainbow really isn't light anyway.. it's an illusion created by the refraction of light... You could have a perfect red or green or blue light... in fact we do, they are called lasers... But they are just pieces of the whole. How can you consider a piece of something "more perfect" than the whole?
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I don't think sis's example were pieces of the whole. Each one was a correct answer in itself - it was NOT incomplete by itself. 2 + 4 = 6, whether you list other ways to get to 6 or not.
How about this question - what is an element with 6 neutrons? Is "carbon" the perfect answer to that?
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Which leads one to the assumption that not all questions have perfect answers. Especially those without context. No one tried to answer my question "Can a perfect evil being exist?" You're tossing out questions dealing with abstractions and forms.. which also have no real MORAL or ETHICAL implications... it's like the question about the ice cream. It really doesn't matter what flavor ice cream Thor likes... unless you're the one that has to go get it... asking whether 2+4 or 1x6 is more or less perfect means nothing without a context. Unless your concept of perfection is more akin to the void.. i.e. something perfectly neutral that interacts with, and is affected by.. nothing.
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I'll go with Tolkien's answer, which I think is the correct one: No, because a perfectly evil being would be the taking away of everything good, which leaves ... nothing.
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04-20-2007, 12:05 PM | #48 | |
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And, as to the rainbow... why would light that includes a refractive component and an observer be "less perfect" than light without? The trend of this argument is that creation is a step away from perfection, rather than a movement towards fullfillment of it. If so, why bother to create at all?
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Nope, no perfect evil people, being evil is a (Realy realy big) flaw
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For a thing to function perfectly requires more than an assemblage of parts. That is necessary, true, but in addition the parts need to be in the proper relation to each other, and the whole thing must be put to the proper use. Now a ray of light, or a car, or a human being consists of a set of parts in a certain arrangement. To keep the pieces but break them apart is to destroy the whole - a rainbow may be beautiful, but it is not perfect when compared to the sunbeam. Anyway, in regards to the question "can a perfect evil being exist" I'll agree that the answer is no. The logic of this is actually fairly simple, and it goes like this: Suppose we define 'Good' arbitrarily as a value 'close to six.' Good -> 6 Suppose then that we define Evil as 'not good' or 'not close to six.' Evil != 6 Suppose also that 'Perfection' is 'the utmost good' or 'the closest to six.' Perfect = 6 Then if X == Evil is true, X == Perfect cannot also be true. This is not a rigorous proof, of course, but I'll leave it at that all the same.
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