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JD does so have a sense of humour. I know you have one too IRex... I have a feeling yours and JDs just don't align very much.
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I have nothing more useful to add so I may depart as well. (I predict a padlock on this thread pretty soon. )
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02-18-2005, 04:13 PM | #44 |
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Uuggh.
It's like a certain forum I post at. Three threads. One on the differences between the various variable valve timing variants, another on the upcoming forum gettogether, and yet another on a photographic assignment for the weekend. The innocent, naive poster joins the discussion, immaturely and unjustifiably thinking that all three threads were distinct subjects, yet each thread degenerates to the lampooning of Charl and the rampant hatred towards him spewed forth in post after post of irrelevant e-derision. FFS R47|-|3r cr3473 4 s1ng13 7|-|r34d f0r 4ny p0s7s re1473d 70 C|-|4r1. |
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So what's the point of this thread now? It has gotten it's message accross already.
This topic could just go on and on. I happen to agree with SGH and JD on this, but see nothing that can be done about it. As IR has said, if something religous has to do with the topic, then you can't stop it from being discussed in the topic. A lot of these topics are getting way repetitive and boring, with the same thing being argued for hundreds of pages.... We just need new, interesting topics that won't center around the same old same old. I'd say the whole discuss religion/creationism/evolution/homosexuality/etc has completely expired FTM and is completely stale.
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well i think the "on topic only" theory of threads has more to do with that. When this isnt enforced threads tend to just die off instead of having to be resurected EVERY time something having anything to do with the topic (homosexuality) comes along. So people will start a thread about something happening to gays in the news or something and it will be discussed. then it dies. then later someone will start a thread about their specific experiences with being homosexual and it will be discussed. then it dies. that way people dont feel like they have to hunt up the one single thread that has to do with the topic (sometimes even the topic can be splitting hairs. does it diserve a seperate thread?). So what happens when you have the kind of policy we have here is that its much more likely that the topic will be dominated by certain points of view and other things will get drowned out. and then because new similar threads cant be made you get threads like this where people complain that people are dominating certain threads in ways they dont agree with themselves. very predictable really.
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Im hardly injured. Although I am curious as to how the wording shows "contempt" for you exactly.
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IR, I'm not saying not to discuss the religious aspects of a topic. I'm saying there is only so much that can be said though and you have to draw the line somewhere to keep the starting post on track. When religion begins to dominate the discussion, the original topic is now on the back burner and is over shadowed because it has been changed into a moral/religious debate.
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Fair enough. But my point is that its REALLY REALLY tricky to draw that line...
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SGH - I was responding to IR's attitude. He keeps it in check - then I wouldn't have to respond to it.
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I think everyone knows where certain people stand on thier religious beliefs. I suggest that after considerable discussion in topics that didn't start with religion, it should be either taken into the religious thread or the person being vocal of thier religion and or beliefs should take the conversation into PM. That way everyone can talk about things openly and at the same time the ones that want to preach to others on their beliefs can do it more one on one. I think that is part of the reason the that it may have become so repetitive.
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That's not true, JD - something HAS changed. It's the people. Most of the people on page 1 are not at the Moot now. And as I said before, I don't mind re-discussing a topic with new people (altho obviously some people do) because to me, people are more important and interesting than topics. I got pretty irritated a while back when people would start a new topic and it would get cold water thrown on it with a curt and clique-ish "We discussed that last year". That may be true that the TOPIC was discussed, but the "we" part isn't true, because obviously the new person wasn't in on that discussion! If a new person brings up an old thread and wants to discuss it, then I don't have a problem with that, and if the topic is interesting to me, then I'll join in I'm sure the newer people appreciate that someone is willing to re-discuss a subject that they missed, and for those who find it boring to re-discuss, well, there's no compulsion for them to post
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And I've been considering asking IRex to start a thread and present a multi-post opinion on "evidence for evolution". I think that would be interesting! What do you say, IRex?
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You know, this is exactly why I close threads at 100 pages in the Middle-earth forum. What newbie is going to come and read a thread that is 200 plus pages. They read the opening post and then post. That in itself causes problems I think and makes for repetitive posting.
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And again, I sincerely don't see how beliefs of ANY kind can be kept out of moral issues like gay/les IIRC, TC started the thread with a very simple "what do you guys think?" or something like that. If someone wants to start a thread with "please share your gay/les experiences but let's not discuss the belief systems behind them", that's fine, and people should honor the thread-starter's request. Maybe most of the people are mad at me, personally - I don't know. I know I certainly post a lot and have long posts. However, I must point out that people ASK me to explain things, and to do them justice I have to make it a long explanation. I've been asked quite a few times to explain how I view things, and the more observant among you (hi, Nurv!) have noticed that I've actually tagged some of my posts with "refpost" so I can find them and refer to them, instead of re-typing! If people ask me a question, I like to answer them - I'm glad to see new people come in, and I'll answer a question I've already answered out of respect for them and out of enjoyment of meeting a new person
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