My English teacher has never read tLotR!

[Wayfarer]

Hmmm... Browser troubles?

[fireworks19]

I read the Hobbit in 6th or 7th grade. My friend (at the time) Rachel (aka Galadriel24) had the trilogy and decided to read that. I borrowed it from her....And between us, we got Kelly (Eowyn) to read it. Lately I've making any of my friend who want to see the movie read it....Makes for some interesting conversation.

[Legolas]

Losttaliel, I think your english teacher would find it really great if you quoted her: "A Elbereth Gilthoniel/ Silivren penna miriel" and so on. And if I quoted something to my Lith teacher, she would think that I'm at least idiot . That's bad.

[Losttaliel]

[QUOTE]Origonaly posted by wayfarer
Hmmm... Browser troubles?

Sorry! yea.

Originally posted by Legolas
Losttaliel, I think your english teacher would find it really great if you quoted her: "A Elbereth Gilthoniel/ Silivren penna miriel" and so on. And if I quoted something to my Lith teacher, she would think that I'm at least idiot . That's bad.

I'm not that dumb! She'd eat me alive!. Should have said his "english poetry". Like some of the stuff in The lost tales. He was a truely skilled poet.

-L

[Wayfarer]

lammas is gone, the harvest moon has waned
Summer is dying that so briefly reigned
now the proud elm, at last, begin to quail,
their leaves uncounted tremble, and go pale
seeing afar the icy spears, of winter march to battle with the sun.
When bright all hallows fades, their day is done
and born on wings of amber wan they fly,
in heedless winds, beneath a sullen sky,
and fall like dying birds apon the mere.

~JRR Tolkien 'Kortirion'

P.S... Does anybody know where I can find a transcript of the poem 'Goblin Feet'? I've been having a deuce of a time... but I guess that's because tolkien hated it.

[Comic Book Guy]

Goblin Feet
by J.R.R. Tolkien


I am off down the road
Where the fairy laterns glowed
And the little pretty flitter-mice are flying"
A sleder band of gray
It runs creepily away
And the hedges and the grasses are a-sighing.
The air is full of wings,
And of blundery beetle-things
That warn you with their whirring and their humming.
O! I hear the tiny horns
Of enchanted leprechauns
And the padded feet of many gnomes a-coming!

O! the lights! O! the gleams! O! the little twikly sounds!
O! the rustle of their noisless little robes!
O! the echo of their feet-of their happy little feet!
O! the swinging lamps in the starlit globes.

I msut follow in their train
Down the crooked fairy lane
Where the coney-rabbits long ago have gone,
And where silvery they sing
In a mooving moonlit ring
All a twinkle with the jewels they ahve on.
They are fading round the turn
Where the glowworms palely burn
And the echo of their padding feet is dying!
O! it's knocking at my heart-
Let me go! O! let me start!
For the little magic hours ar all a-flying.

O! the warmth! O! the hum! O! the colors in the dark!
O! the guazy wings of golden honey-flies!
O! the music of their feet-of ther dancing goblin feet!
O! the magic O! the sorrow when it dies.



Leprechauns and Fairys and Gnomes oh my!

[Treebeard's apprentice]

The problem with fantasy is that in most cases it is seen as "escape" or "commercial" literature.

First, I must say that all literature is "commercial" in the sense that writers write books to make money, pure and simple. Did Shakespeare write plays becuase he wanted people to gain a higher knowledge of the world around them? Maybe, but he did it mostly for the money.

Second, it is true that most fantasy is "escape literature," so most people assume LotR falls in that category. Besides the fact that it takes a lot of school time to read a trilogy, LotR is not taught because literary critics assume there are no symbols or themes or any other of those stupid literary devices that scholars and professors make up to keep themselves in a job.

I also think they don't want English classes to be fun.

[Legolas]

Originally posted by Treebeard's apprentice
I also think they don't want English classes to be fun.

That's where I fully agree to you! And that's the same for Lithuanian classes in my country.

[Losttaliel]

Originally posted by Treebeard's apprentice
I also think they don't want English classes to be fun.

Fun english classes would just be scary... and we may LEARN something! That shouldn't happen in a SCHOOL!

[ArwenEvenstar]

My english teacher is stupid.

I asked her one day is we were going to read the Hobbit or LOTR or something else by Tolkien and she looked at me like I was a retard or something (excuse my language,im not racist, but that's how I felt she looked at me...)So now my boyfriend and I are reading LOTR well she's yapping about these stupid SCIFI stories (I don't have anything against SCIFI but these stories SUCK!!) She really hates me and my BF so we ignore her- its partly her fault maybe if we read something decent for our Vocabulary lesson.... So we pass notes right infront of her in The Angerthas We're pretty bad but she's so boring. Like fall asleep....

But grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I totally wish we could read The Hobbit or The Silmarillion or Unfinshed Tales or- well you get the point

[Wayfarer]

Originally posted by ArwenEvenstar
she looked at me like I was a retard or something (excuse my language,im not racist, but that's how I felt she looked at me...)

Um... forgive me... bus since when does the word retard have racial implications?

[Bradistic]

Despite the fact that my 9th grade English teacher was a pompous pervert, I did like one thing about him. I remember that he suggested that we read tLOTR as outside reading. He was actually an ok guy (despite the accuracy of my above description) because I argued with him a lot and he both argued back and didn't dislike me for it. Second semester we changed teachers, and hit the jackpot. Our new teacher was extremely easy and had us read cool stuff like "The Cask of Amontillado" by Edgar Allan Poe and other cool works I can't remember the names of (apparently some English teachers actually are cool). In 10th grade we had to read The Tale of Two Cities. I thought the last section was very good, but the first two were horribly long and boring, probably because Charles Dickens wrote it in weekly installments and got paid for the number of words he wrote. My teacher liked to talk a lot about what we were reading so we got through about 100 pages in three weeks. Then he told us to finish it over spring break. I was maybe one of three people in the class who actually read it from cover to cover. I am not sure if tLOTR should be made required curriculum because it is so long that I would be afraid that many students both wouldn't read it all and wouldn't take it seriously. There are also too many teachers who are too anti-fantasy and stupid to teach it properly. I say that it is best not to force the greatness of tLOTR upon those who won't appreciate it, besides if too many people liked then it wouldn't be as cool. Moving on to the rest of my high school English career, my 11th grade teacher was very intelligent (This if funny because I know her daughter and she is very stupid) and we mostly just read books and talked about them in class. This was pretty easy for me. Unfortunately she actually expected us to care about what we were reading, but fortunately I actually did care about some of it and was able to fake it for rest of the year. I didn't like my current 12th grade English teacher at first, but I began to warm up to him when I heard that in another class he said that he like me because I was very intellectual. Maybe I will have to start throwing some tLOTR stuff into my essays to see what his position is upon the topic.

[Elrond]

Must be incompatant

[Quickbeam]

my english teacher hasn't read it either, but my health techer is on his 5th time!! Every time i have health we talk about LOTR. It's pretty cool.

[Elrond]

Sounds like a pretty good setup.

[garrfin]

does anyone know where you could get a copy of the books in french?Or if one exists?

[Elvellon]

I believe you can by a copy of Le Seigneur des Anneaux at Amazon, else you can always try a French site like Fnac.

[Bacchus]

Don't know where to buy it, but I have a French copy of Le Silmarillion.

[Losttaliel]

Why have u got coppies in FRENCH ? sounds freaky, strange, and difficult to read!

[Bacchus]

A couple of buddies of mine got it for me as a souvenir from Europe. It's a good way to polish language skills. (Not that my French is very good)