10-23-2004, 03:44 PM | #41 |
Warrior of the House of Hador
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,651
|
She's also not meant to be in TTT but she turns up at Helms Deep?
__________________
Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230 |
10-23-2004, 06:26 PM | #42 |
Sapling
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 3
|
It was an amazing experience and a joy to be a part of. However, working all day in harsh weather wasn't always nearly as enjoyable. But still, a great memory nonetheless.
|
10-24-2004, 12:44 AM | #43 | |
The Insufferable
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,333
|
Quote:
__________________
Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned Last edited by Wayfarer : 10-24-2004 at 12:52 AM. |
|
10-24-2004, 01:31 AM | #44 |
The Infamous Tea Hobbit
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Riding my Attack Llama, CORY!
Posts: 1,162
|
Ahem, Wayfarer. That is -the- Orlando Bloom if you haven't noticed. He is referring to his time spent on making the Lord of the Rings movies.
__________________
If I can stop one heart from aching, I shall not live in vain. -Emily Dickinson But the Master comes, and the foolish crowd Never can quite understand The worth of a soul and the change that is wrought By the touch of the Master's hand. Though she be but little, she is fierce! -MSND |
10-24-2004, 06:14 AM | #45 |
The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium)
Posts: 14,363
|
Nehheh, I think our Insufferable is refering to the thread's title, basically this is where you say what you hate about the movies. So -the- Orlando Bloom hated to be a part of an amazing experience...
Interesting what you learn on messageboards, isn't it?
__________________
We are not things. |
10-24-2004, 03:30 PM | #46 | |
The Insufferable
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,333
|
Quote:
*holds out a hand* Welcome to Entmoot, Orlando Bloom. Nice to meet you. I'm Wayfarer the Insufferable. And here, you might want this. *hands over a bag of salt* Try and take one or two grains with everything I say.
__________________
Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned |
|
10-24-2004, 04:23 PM | #47 |
The Infamous Tea Hobbit
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Riding my Attack Llama, CORY!
Posts: 1,162
|
Ah, my apologies Mr. Wayfarer. And welcome to the Moot also, Mr. Bloom. Delighted to be sure.
__________________
If I can stop one heart from aching, I shall not live in vain. -Emily Dickinson But the Master comes, and the foolish crowd Never can quite understand The worth of a soul and the change that is wrought By the touch of the Master's hand. Though she be but little, she is fierce! -MSND |
10-25-2004, 03:28 PM | #48 |
Long lost mooter
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,342
|
I watched FotR again over the weekend, and I isolated the exact moment I think it started to go somewhat awry for me. It was right after the excellent scene where the hobbits hid under the tree (sadly there were no elven voices that came to the rescue). It goes from that scene, occuring during the day, to the next, which looks like it's at night, and Merry kind of "confronts" Frodo about the Black Rider. So what happened? Did darkness suddenly fall? What had they talked about between the time they got away from it before and this moment? And what is the source of that light shining behind the Nazgul they see after that? I think the fact that it is suddenly nighttime really muddles things up, and of course then there's the chase scene onto the raft. That really bothered me this time. It wouldn't have been so bad, except that it's so unbelievable and such a typically Hollywood action sequence. Plus, the raft wasn't that far from the bank when Frodo jumps on; the Nazgul could have gotten to him. They needed to be further away from the bank. Anyway, that's my little rant.
|
10-28-2004, 01:51 PM | #49 |
The Insufferable
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,333
|
Yes, Azalea.
Wow. I had a sudden flash of Chrono Trigger for some reason just now. I recall being intrigued by a review of FOTR which was written by someone who had never read the books. They concluded something like "why couldnt' the rest of the movie have been as good as the first thirty minutes?" I think that's really the crux of the issue - the films started off so well, and they came so close to getting it perfect to start off with, that the deliberate changes are all the more jolting.
__________________
Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned |
10-28-2004, 02:09 PM | #50 |
The Lovely Hobbit-Lass
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Bounded in a nut-shell
Posts: 1,593
|
True. From a strictly movie standpoint, FotR was a much better movie than TTT, and maybe it pulls up even with RotK. Maybe. It's just, in the first movie, it's real and you can feel it. In the other two movies, it goes from being real to being entertainment- pandering to what audiences want: big battles... etc.
__________________
It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year! |
10-28-2004, 02:13 PM | #51 |
Warrior of the House of Hador
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,651
|
It was true to the book in all the main scenes apart from Flight to the Ford!
__________________
Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230 |
10-28-2004, 04:56 PM | #52 |
The Lovely Hobbit-Lass
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Bounded in a nut-shell
Posts: 1,593
|
Right; and that's what I liked about it. I hadn't read the books when I saw FotR, but since reading the books I have noticed that the further Jackson went from Tolkien, the more 'entertainment/Hollywood/Armegeddon-crap' it became. I mean, JRRT could have been a moviemaker for all his dramatic talent. To mess with that was just stupid, really- especially when PJ had such a good thing going.
__________________
It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year! |
10-30-2004, 11:28 AM | #53 |
Hobbit
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: gera, thuringia, germany
Posts: 29
|
The 2 things I hate most are:
1. Elves at Helms Deep 2. Frodo offering the Ring to the Nazgul Apart from all other changes those are the two that just seem to be against everything Tollers wrote. |
10-31-2004, 12:48 AM | #54 |
Cyber Elf Lord
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Left of Rock, Right of Hard Place
Posts: 986
|
In general it can be summed up as follows --
When the film makers deviated from LOTR. Especially when the changes did not improve on the novel, changes that were so expanded that it forced the cutting of other parts of LOTR from the movie or IMO, the changes did not keep with the spirit of LOTR. With the budget and resources available I still think the film makers could have done a much better job. More specifically:
There are more for TT & ROTK but I do not feel like writing them at this moment. p450
__________________
Sincerely, Anthony 'Many are my names in many countries,' he said. 'Mithrandir among the Elves, Tharkûn to the Drarves; Olórin I was in my youth in the West that is forgotten, in the South Incánus, in the North Gandalf; to the East I go not.' Faramir What nobler employment, or more valuable to the state, than that of the man who instructs the rising generation? Cicero (106BC-43BC) Last edited by mithrand1r : 10-31-2004 at 12:52 AM. Reason: spelling |
01-04-2005, 08:44 AM | #55 |
The Intermittent One
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: here and there
Posts: 4,671
|
my ultimate worst bit is gandalf's mad coughing fit on ee rotk, grrr
|
01-04-2005, 08:54 AM | #56 | |
The Insufferable
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,333
|
Quote:
I mean, I can see even Gandalf, who was in a human body, getting a cough (though I don't think it's pertinent to the story). But the I'm-on-drugs jumping around and ranting was a bit much.
__________________
Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned |
|
01-04-2005, 09:08 AM | #57 | ||
Elven Warrior
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: I dwell in possibility.
Posts: 247
|
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
"...then how shall I Revive the dying tones of minstrelsy, Which linger yet about lone gothic arches, In dark green ivy, and among wild larches?" Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum. |
||
01-04-2005, 09:19 AM | #58 |
The Intermittent One
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: here and there
Posts: 4,671
|
if bakshi and jackson had worked together, think how bad gandalf would be then, who can spin at super speed, whilst flailing arms about, hitting hobbit with staff AND having mad coughing fit?
|
01-04-2005, 09:21 AM | #59 | |
Elven Warrior
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: I dwell in possibility.
Posts: 247
|
Quote:
__________________
"...then how shall I Revive the dying tones of minstrelsy, Which linger yet about lone gothic arches, In dark green ivy, and among wild larches?" Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum. |
|
01-04-2005, 09:30 AM | #60 | ||
Co-President of Entmoot
Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Canada
Posts: 8,397
|
lol
I think the whole Nazgul thing is pretty funny. They're portrayed as pretty incompetent. As Mithrand1r mentioned, the chase scene before the ferry is lame. Why are you scared of the Nazgul when you can already outrun him on horseback Frodo? And at the dreadful Osgiliath scene, another one I love to hate, the Nazgul is about 2m away from Frodo, looking straight at him, and he does not go after the Ring. Now, I know Nazgul don't have the best vision in the daytime, but they can sense the Ring. So how could the Nazgul mysteriously not sense the Ring when it was right in front of its face? No need to fear the incompetent Nazmorons Frodo, why not take the scenic route to Mount Doom and enjoy yourself?
__________________
"I can add some more, if you'd like it. Calling your Chief Names, Wishing to Punch his Pimply Face, and Thinking you Shirriffs look a lot of Tom-fools." - Sam Gamgee, p. 340, Return of the King Quote:
Quote:
|
||
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
HP Vs. LoTR | Pytt | Harry Potter | 53 | 01-17-2011 01:33 AM |
lotr trilogy trivia II | Farimir Captain of Gondor | Lord of the Rings Movies | 443 | 06-26-2010 06:00 PM |
Of Wraiths and Kings, and Friends and Rings (Calling All Nazgul) | The Witch-King of Angmar | Entmoot Archive | 876 | 03-02-2006 06:36 PM |
Theological Opinions | Nurvingiel | General Messages | 992 | 02-10-2006 04:15 PM |
LoTR discussion project: Book III, Chapters 8 and 9: | Forkbeard | LOTR Discussion Project | 31 | 01-13-2006 01:05 AM |