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12-14-2001, 01:25 AM | #43 |
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Posting to Palian and Kirink54
I quote Elrond speaking to Frodo: "And I will choose you companions to go with you...The number must be few, since your hope is in speed and secrecy. Had I a host of Elves in armour of the Elder Days (supposedly with weapons, numerous), it would avail little, save to arouse the power of Mordor." But if you need a physical weapon, one that could be wielded then my vote is for the Sword-that-was-Broken. Aragorn's sword. Boromir speaks at The Council of Elrond saying: "Then in Gondor we must trust to such weapons as we have. Mayhap the Sword-that-was-Broken may still stem the tide---if the hand that wields it has inherited not an heirloom only, but the sinews of the Kings of Men." I will stand by love, faith and loyalty. But if I would need to hold something then I would first choose Anduril, Flame of the West. |
12-15-2001, 01:19 AM | #44 |
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Speaking of which, I know a guy who can make a real nasty weapon out of a can of beans, if you give him enough time.
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12-17-2001, 04:43 AM | #45 |
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The lifespan of Orcs
Don't the orcs in the tower (minas morgul) talk about Old Times, which seems to refer to the times before the third age. (dunno.)
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12-17-2001, 10:23 PM | #46 |
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They refer to the 'Great Siege' I think, which is probably the Siege of Barad-dûr, which occured before the end of the Second Age.
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BTW does anyone knows anything about the use of spears in Tolkien´s world? It appears that Gil-galad had Aiglos as his foremost weapon but that is all I know.
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"For unsummoned and unlooked for Turgon had opened the leaguer of Gondolin, and was come with an army ten thousand strong, with bright mail and long swords and spears like a forest." Pretty powerful language there! And spears were obviously in much use. I wonder if this changed into the Third Age? In the LotR spears play a very little role IIRC.
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12-19-2001, 05:51 PM | #50 |
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Most cultures who fought with weapons appear to use spears. Orcs, Men, Dwarves, Elves. They are mentioned as often as they are seen, I suppose.
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12-20-2001, 11:19 PM | #52 |
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i could be wrong, but didn't the rohirrim use spears? i think that they were mentioned a couple of times to have them.
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12-21-2001, 01:46 PM | #53 |
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Spears were used by just about everybody.
Swords were usde by everybody but dwarves. Axes were used by everybody but elves. As far as I can tell, everybody used knives and bows. So really... weapons were pretty evenly spread around. It was just the configuration that was different.
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Axes were used by Elves, and swords by Dwarves, oddly enough. Axes were the chief weapons of the Grey-elves in Beleriand, and Dwarves could use Elf-sized swords (as Thorin did Orcrist). Swords are mentioned in the first Dwarven song of The Hobbit, and also in Gimli's song in Mória:
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12-21-2001, 06:36 PM | #55 |
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true enough.
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Here's a list of hand-held "named" weapons, along with a translation of the weapon's name, if I know it, and the most significant wielder(s). First are the swords, then other types of weapons. Can anyone add any other named weapons? I'm not interested in rings and such, just true hand-held battle weapons.
Anglachel/Gurthang - (Iron of Death) Túrin Anguirel - Eöl Aranrúth - (King's Ire) Thingol/Kings of Numenor Glamdring - (Foe Hammer) King of Gondolin/Gandalf Gúthwinë - (Battle Friend?) Éomer Herugrim - Théoden Narsil/Andúril - (Red and White Flame/Flame of the West) - Elendil/Aragorn Orcrist - (Goblin Cleaver) Thorin Ringil - (Cold Star/Cold Spark?) Fingolfin Sting - knife Bilbo/Frodo Aeglos/Aiglos - (Snow Point/Icicle) spear Gil-galad Angrist - (Iron Cleaver) knife Curufin/Beren Belthronding - bow Beleg Dramborleg - (Thudder-Sharp) axe Tuor Grond - ("Hammer of the Underworld") mace Morgoth |
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it states thorin's sword being the mate of glamdring and them being found in the same troll hole as sting. this clearly shows that there is a very good chance of them originating in the same place?
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i cast my vote for grond, it felled one of the greatest elves in middle earth.
the next would be gurthang.
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I say the bow Legolas got in Lorien.
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