08-27-2002, 05:38 AM | #41 |
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i would supose that it was aragorn or gandalf
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08-27-2002, 05:45 AM | #42 |
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wow i thougth that the only ones from norway was me and frodo1990! anyway id supose aragorn or gandalf are the real heroes in lord of the rings
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08-27-2002, 11:03 AM | #43 |
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I HAVE RETURNED TO THE ENTMOOT!
I couldn't stay away for too long. I am back As most of you know, I am an avid Sam fan, so I think he is the hero. However, Lord of the Rings is the type of story where everything has to go just right to get the outcome it did. You could say anyone is the hero. Shadowfax could be the hero. Farmer Maggot could be ther hero. Heck, Shelob could be the hero if you really think about it. Its just the way all the events worked out where the Ring was successully destroyed. But, heres my list. 1) Samwise 2) Frodo (carrying the Ring was a tough job) 3) Gandalf, Aragorn, Eowyn, and Thedon all tie ~Rosie~
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Frodo failed as a stereotypical hero, but he was a hero. I don't think Sam was any more a hero than Frodo. The two first senses I have come across in the Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary are: Quote:
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08-27-2002, 09:15 PM | #46 |
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I think that by "real" it was meant that they did the most or something like that, not that everyone else was a "fake" hero.
But that post was beautiful!
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08-27-2002, 09:45 PM | #47 |
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Thank you!
If it comes down to: who accomplished the most?, my answer would be Gandalf.
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08-27-2002, 11:19 PM | #48 |
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I think at the beginning of the book, Frodo definitely. He takes the ring when no one else will etc. But by the end (especially in the last book) Sam really is the one who i guess saves the day. And of course, Gandalf!
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08-28-2002, 07:40 AM | #49 |
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One word: Gandalf.
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08-28-2002, 08:06 AM | #50 |
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Oh dear. I must agree, first and foremost it's Frodo.
But as I grew up, I learned that there is a hero in each of the characters. (Barring the baddies.) Each character is meant to appeal to a different type of person, I think. Note the characters diversity! Smart ones, dumb ones, young ones, old ones, men, dwarves, elves and hobbits, grand wise old wizards - women - it runs the whole spectrum. There is a hero there for all of us to identify with. I attached onto Aragorn and Galadriel as my personal favorites, but Frodo of course is the sweet little heart grabber of the books. |
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08-28-2002, 11:23 PM | #52 |
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Maybe a bad guy could be called a hero, from Nolendil's definition. Perhaps the orcs and evil men.
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08-28-2002, 11:42 PM | #53 |
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Many in Lord of the Rings performed heroic acts. There is but one "hero" of the Lord of the Rings -- it is Frodo Baggins of the Shire.
As Ñólendil so well stated: Quote:
Gandalf was his advisor, Aragorn was his champion, and Sam was his friend and squire. You could call Sam Frodo's hero, the wind beneath his wings so to speak, and I love him dearly, but I do believe the mantle of The Real Hero of the Story belongs to Frodo.
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08-29-2002, 12:03 PM | #55 |
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Heck, you could consider Sauron the hero if you wanted. Without him there would have been no adventure and Sam, Frodo, and Gandalf wouldn't have become as heroic in our eyes. We would never even know about them! You could call the Balrog a hero...he took Gandalf away from the company, causing necessary things to happen, and then when Gandalf came back he was tougher, he was Gandalf the White.
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08-29-2002, 12:23 PM | #56 |
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All those characters are villains, antagonists, bad guys, etc. which rules them out (unless your last post was intended to be sarcastic).
I thought that the purpose of this thread was to debate on who is the one singular individual whom you consider to be the hero of the story. If everyone who did something heroic could be considered "the hero" we wouldn't have a debate, would we?
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Melkor is the hero. without him sauron would never have come about his evil ways..
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I haven't finished the third book yet so I"m not in a position to make my full opinion, but at the time being, I would say Sam. He has a hero's heart. He stuck with Frodo until he thought Frodo died, and then he decided to continue the journey by himself. Very brave.
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