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Samwise, I totally agree, you've hit the nail on the head as usual.
However, clearly perceptions differ depending on a multitude of factors. I don't think M Faramir can be described as loathsome and greedy when he let them go in the end -- I wonder if I'd have the courage to do that in the same circumstances. Perhaps this discussion should be continued when more information is available -- the EE of TT and RotK. |
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I loved the movies. I am grateful, but I have to critizise. Some things were just stupid.
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Yes I love the movies too! Flaws and all!
Did Ruinel say something?? Somehow m Faramir will magically change from an irritating d*ick to a over burdened, under appreciated, good guy! (Please! )
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Oh ho! To do that right (max thrills) IMO, there should be a long, slow build up....the falling in love stage, very pure, gradually becoming very deep, then an explosion of pent up emotion, followed by a knee buckling, melty release of seething romantic tensions! Tasty!
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I'd like to be an actress of romantic fiction! Mmmmm!
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ok samwise of wherever it is your from(who cares).
"He didn't say that you CAN'T complain mothra...he was just saying that those that don't STOP complaining should choke on a rock! He said sorry...give him a break. " i can tell from hectors posts that he is a very intelligent person(sarcasm off). as far as giving him a break is concerned, that is for me to decide and not you. i believe that anyone that makes such ridiculous remarks deserves the taunting they receive. "Alright this is ripe. If the movie was THAT bad...Then WHY in Middle Earth do you keep on going BACK to see the new installments???!!!!! I mean there is NO logic behind that!!! You wouldn't return to a bad resturant, then WHY return to a "bad" movie." ARRRGGGH, Cheers, Sam. here again, your intelligence shines through. exactly where in my previous post did i say that i did not like the movies? or did you assume this to be true? first piece of advice, sam; dont ever assume anything. i enjoyed the movies very much, i have seen them many times, and i will continue to criticize jackson because i do not think he did tolkien's work justice. the changes that pj made in the first movie were subtle enough that the movie did not stray from the plot, more time related than anything. the second movie was not that fortunate. it was a good movie, but a pitiful attempt at an adaptation, tribute, or whatever you want to label it. i look forward to seeing what pj does with the third film. hopefully he will redeem himself and make a picture that is true enough to tolkien to get that best pic oscar. if it continues to stray from the path like its predicessor, then i would have hoped that pj never would have made the movies rather than see it turned into a mockery of tolkien.
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I enjoyed the movies. I thought they were great. FotR was very well done. It left out some things and changed some things, but generally it stayed fairly close to the book. TTT was kind of a mess....but it was still really good, aside from the obvious(Faramir). I think everyone should appreciate what PJ is trying to do. He's trying to make the most widely read books into movies, which is a pretty hard task. If any of us tried to do it, we'd be just as criticized if not more...probably more.
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I think that PJ&Co. could have stayed closer to the book with a minimum of additions (if any) and still produced a very good film within the 3 hour time frame. So far I have listed upto Bree one possible way of how things could have been done differently in another thread. Eventually I will get around to the rest of FOTR & TTT.
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Since TTT had a lot less going on (in terms of exposition, plot, and introduction) its changes were far more noticable over the course of the three hours. However, the major changes in TTT have their clear origins in FOTR and flow quite naturally from them.
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I was just thinking, if the studio had given him five hours for each movie, would pj have stayed closer to the book?.
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Of course a longer movie would allow for a fuller adaption, but PJ wouldn't have made one five hour movie; let alone three.
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