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Thanks Gaffer...I needed that this morning! ((hugs))
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02-08-2007, 09:48 AM | #42 |
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Gaffer, I 100% agree about the worrying trends.
But this is a very small sample of public opinion and understanding on this point. Is it related to the tendency of the young to forecast their own (and by implication everyone else's) immortality? Or is it part of a larger swing away from the basic principles of the Scientific Method?
I worry that it's the second. If we raise people who don't understand WHY scientists talk carefully about proof as regards evolution, or global warming, and take that to mean "Some fellow with letters after his name disagrees, the scientists themselves admit it's not 'proven', therefore ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice," we have left ourselves a civilization ripe for demagogues, whether political, spiritual, or corporate. If that's the outlook, global warming may be the slowest of our problems. As Professor Kirk said, "What are they teaching them in these schools?" |
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As Telcontarian pointed out, other planets are also warming. I'm just not sure cows can shoot their methane that far.
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Richrad Lindzen is the former president of the National Academy of Sciences, and he still serves on their panel. He helped write the IPPC report.
By the way, thank you to Earniel and Nurv for actually talking about the issue.
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sisterandcousinandaunt is far too cumbersome a name - can we agree some sort of shorter version?
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Sorry, butterbeer.
I answer to both "Sis" and "Earl", which is Leif's nick for me.
Hector, I meant no attack on tolkienfan. In fact, I addressed my remark to Nurv because I was concerned her frustration over this as a source of "scientific information" would be perceived as an attack. At the risk of setting you off again, so much of this comes down to evaluating sources. And after you've evaluated the source in general (who pays their bills, what constitutancy do they represent) you can evaluate the individual studies cited, for scientific rigor. It's not enough that the answer conforms with our worldview. Sadly, in many cases, but it's not. If you want a religious debate on global warming, it might be framed as "In Genesis, God gave Man dominion over the animals. If that is God's plan for Man, can we not trust Him to protect us from any possible effect of global warming?" |
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Official Re-start
The debate about Global Warming will now re-start.
Explanations about co2s working (or not) in the atmosphere will be welcomed, and also discussion about what the weather has been doing in the past few years.
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Sorry, Rian, yes.
I saw that but I felt silly dragging that thread to the top again to say so.
I just love those mob G&S entrances, and so many of the posters here being musical, I thought it was appropriate. *backs away so as not to derail the new debate further* Last edited by sisterandcousinandaunt : 02-08-2007 at 01:58 PM. Reason: can't spell |
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No, that's not all I've done...that's all you've done... Hector....you can't take a bite out of my leg....your head is too far up you ass.
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Just to be clear. I think that's what you meant too. Gaffer, it's Klondike, not Klondyke. </Canadian geek> I agree about the wind turbines, we should continue to study and experiment with ways to make them more efficient. And I love the term "McArses". Hector, cow farts are hardly the biggest contributor to global warming, why do you keep bringing it up? EDIT: Also Hector, you allege in post #4 that the UN is perpetrating misconcseptions about global warming, with this quote: "Even the UN is the one perpetrating the misconceptions about it." What are these misconceptions?
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I know what an overview is, and if Sen. James Inhofe isn't lying, this overview covers only a slim amount of subjects, which as expected, are the ones people know from Al Gore. Thats what I've heard. The full report comes out in April or May, we can look at it more in full then I guess.
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Cross-post. Please see my edit.
Don't duck me now.
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