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A case for the American influence on JRRT
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But also a good case can be made for an influence on Tolkien from the United States. Exhibit A would definitely be Stephen Crane's The Black Riders and Other Lines. Crane's black riders referred to a childhood dream he had where black riders had appeared out of the sea. One could say this is a coincidence, but check out #37: Quote:
Then there is Ambrose Bierce's definition of "Belladonna" in The Devil's Dictionary: Quote:
Anyway, these two writers were alive, famous and and influential at about the time JRRT was at his most impressionable. I'd say there's a strong case for an American influence on him.
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Or my village would be Edoras and my house the halls of Meduseld with myself as lady of rohan.
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I think the basic premise of creating a mythology for England carried on underpinning a lot of ME. Threats in ME tend to come from the same direction as threats to the British isles - from the east, with a wide western ocean effectively bounding the known world.
And Tolkien drew on Northern mythologies in general, not just Norse. At the risk of removing the Scandinavian smiles, I think there are more similarities to Saxon mythology than Norse!
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I would agree.
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