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And such workfare programs are not always well-run. Watch Bowling for Columbine it's practically your civic duty to watch a little Michael Moore once in a while
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Very good movie. There's also a whole movie based on poverty in Flint called Roger and Me -- his first movie.
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Elven Warrior
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There was no way Bowling For Columbine was coming to a theater within 1000 miles of my town, but it's so on my list the second it comes out for rental. Jerseydevil, I definitely get what you meant. I hadn't made that connection before. The saddest thing about the litigious society to me is that Americans become so profit-minded that many genuinely, innocently believe lawsuits to be a form of justice. Suing over murders or something that happened on Sept. 11, I don't remember what they found to sue over on that one, but I remember some victims' families suing somebody over something. People are now able to place a dollar-amount on the life of a loved one, and they don't even realize they're being crass. (Yes, I realize some of them really are that crass.)
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Elf Lord of the Grey Havens
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Litigation is a form of justice. That some abuse it doesn't make it unneccessary. Civil suits and class action suits are the only ways to correct some forms of injustice. As far as malpractice, I read, (true or otherwise) that the majority of the suits are against a very small minority of practitioners. At the same time all insurees must bear the brunt on higher premiums since there is no penalty payments for the most litigated insurees.
Closer to topic: I've only been outside the US once (Canada excluded) and that was in Russia c. 1996. I was not a pretty picture. The worst of west and east in one. It was nice to get home to elevators and washing machines, but I could help think how soft we are in comparison, as far as the difficulty of daily life.
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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There are some things that really make me angry. Since the so called "Communist block" has disappeared, capitalism seems to be totally out of control.
The state is retiring from all its duties. I do not want to have a real wellfare state but if it is going to regulate nothing at all, then why keep a state or a government or something like that? You have to be flexible, raise children, build a house, work for at least 12 hours a day, never get sick, be engaged in some honorary duties, post at entmoot, pay for this, pay for that, always be friendly, have no stress, make a tax-declaration, read the papers AAAAAHHHHHHHH. How about creating a smilies that looks like going nuts? |
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Elf Lord
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Do you see Israel as a 'western' country? (be nice, even if you don't)
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The Insufferable
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Since jewish immigrants from western countrys make up the majority in israel, I would say that yeah it's a western country.
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Elf Lord of the Grey Havens
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except many were from Russia, Turkey, etc. Geographically and historically the area is eastern, but socio-politically it is western-ized.
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Elven Warrior
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ya know if ya think about it the west could be anywhere. if you look west from:
Europe-see north america North america-see asia Asia-see europe ect.
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There is a subtle difference between west and The West. The old demarcations are along the lines of the Roman Empires with respect to Europe. Later it was between Christendom and The Oriental and Muslim world, then later Democracy and Communism. Sometimes all three aspects are present, such as the transition from Roman Catholic/Protestant, Democratic, capitalist Hungary to Orthodox, former Turkish subject, former communist state Romania. The difference is social, religious, political, and economic.
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