01-22-2005, 11:18 PM | #41 |
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Well, they would probably have a different pool of genetic markers - for example, humans have one range of skin colors, while orcs seem to be all within a range that's as dark as or darker than the darkest human. Elves, also, seem to have a few genetic markers that fall outside the human norm - such as having unusual hair and eye colors.
The spirit then adapts the body, and the genes, for the particular fate of that race, so there probably isn't any genetic difference that, for example, makes elves immortal and lets half-elves live longer than normal humans.
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01-23-2005, 03:06 AM | #42 |
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Yep, Wayfarer, that was what I was thinking.
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10-10-2007, 02:28 PM | #43 |
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Hm. I bumped into this thread randomly and found it difficult to let the matter rest. Poor Orcses. I don't remember reading anyplace that they lacked free will. Also, I don't remember reading about any character thought up by Tolkien that was pure good or pure evil, so any sentient seems to have the ability to make clear decisions.
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Got this as a counter-argument from someone saying that orcs indeed had free will and some of them chose good:
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04-02-2011, 05:44 AM | #45 |
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I somehow doubt that Tolkien meant it that way, and guess that it was an oversight on his part - I would need to study Letters more closely to be sure.
As the text stands, that bizarre concept seems indeed to be the logical interpretation.
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