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09-23-2004, 12:15 PM | #42 |
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So... No one thinks that it's at all probably that Neville was marked by Voldemort, and NOT Harry, and that this is what could have caused the hat to hesitate?
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I think the Hat wasn't sure. Maybe he found something inside Neville's head that suggested that it was a mental marking not phyisical(sp), and that Neville possesed the same qualities as Harry, bravery, daring, disrespect for rues, but they were hidden by the grief of what had happened to his parents.
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Hm... I never thought of that. *ponders* But if this were the case, wouldn't Dumbledore have told Harry this when he 'told all' at the end of the fifth book? Knowing that Neville was Voldemort's 'opposite' instead of Harry would certainly take quite a load off his shoulders. (If that is in fact what you meant.)
Very interesting point BoP!
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09-23-2004, 01:02 PM | #45 |
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It was but Dumbledore wouldn't nesseceraly (sp) know would he.
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No, I think Dumbledore had it right. I mean, I could be wrong in the end, but I truly think that Harry was the one Voldemort marked by choosing him as his target. He [i]could[i] have chosen either one, but he chose Harry, so Harry must be the one to which the prophecy refers. I think we'll see something great from Neville, though. He is a great character; I liked him more after each book.
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Yes, but dumbledore has been known in the past to have not divulged ALL the information...
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True, and I think more info will be forthcoming. But for this one question, [i]I[i] think he gave the right answer (ie, Harry is the One). But I really can't wait to see what's up with those gum wrappers! I'm sure there's a lot more info about Neville and his family we'll be getting.
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Maybe there was another prophecy, that no one witnessed. Prophecising great deeds for Neville.
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You all make very good points about possibilities for Neville. Voldemort did go after him as well didn't he? Or did he attack Neville's parents simply because they were Aurors and powerful wizards? I'm confused on that point.
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But since it's also said something about the one Voldemort chooses, and Voldemort chose Harry - it cannot be Neville by the prophecy. |
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Let's not start that again.
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i dont remember ever writing that.......strange...........
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Maybe you meant something else BoP? Regardless of the details of the prophecy, Neville and Harry are definitely connected. They're good friends, and they probably would have been without the prophecy, even though it was often evil attacks by Voldemort that threw them together.
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Maybe when they grow up (assuming Neville doesn't die ) they'll be partner Aurors or something!
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Yeah! *hugs Neville* I often cheer for underdog characters in books, but Neville is truly a great character. He's interesting, complex, brave, has a mysterious past, and humorous. What's not to love?
I think Neville would be a great Auror. I don't know if that's what is in store for Harry though. Somehow it seems to obvious, even though both he and Ron would be excellent. I would laugh if Hermione because an Auror after she said "I want to do something more worthwhile."
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09-25-2004, 06:59 AM | #58 |
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Well that could well be what Neville said in his interview with Mcgonogall(sp).
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What was that interview? Refresh my memory please. I've only read book 5 once, about 2 months after it first came out.
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The careers advice. Maybe Neville to said he wanted to be an Auror.
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