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And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool. |
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Maybe instead of worrying about having a flag with different colors to represent the make up the people of Britain - it would be nice to to see some blacks and Indians in Parliament (who make up a large portion of the British population). Sorry - but Parliament seems very very white to me. I've never seen a black or Indfian parliment member when I see the House of Commons or the House of Lords meeting. Are there any black Lords by the way? I'm just suggesting that might be a place to start. Britain was a very hierical society and I think in some respects (well in most respects) it still is.
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*sigh* Another thread going into the predictable path... I'm getting sooo tired of this... <-- very tired smiley
Anyway... As for nationalism, I don't think that the principle itself is bad. A feeling of being part of a society, a nation, can be a good. It makes you care about the nation so that you might want to help maintain and keep it. However it can be taken far too far when it becomes a strife between people just because they're from a different nation. The idea of 'This is our nation, you have nothing to do here, you have nothing to say here so just go away." is rather frightening at times. You can be part of a particular nation but that doesn't mean you can disrespect others who are not. Nor does it mean that you have the right to look only at your own interests. It's only natural to do so but it's sometimes important that you're able to look beyond nations to do things for the greater good. As for flags, they are very useful symbols for countries because they are used universally. Each nation has a flag, nearly each county or shire has a flag. A flag can be anything a country stands for from its ideas on worldpolicies to its people, or just a piece of coloured cloth. IMO quite ironic actually.
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Perhaps for the sake of the community, and the life of the thread, maybe the two of you should either not discuss, or if you wish to discuss, keep it in PM.
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Well, there ya go then.
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Hey now, I'm with gollum #'s.
Let's see who gets kicked first!!! Just kidding fella's. Don't hit me with the stick oh sweet wonderful SGH!
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I think, like Hasty Ent and Sheeana, I like where I am, it's a nice place to live, as far as places go. A place with very mild weather(cannot be said for the rest of the country ) and gorgeous scenery, which makes things alot easier to take. But just a place. Just some accident that had me born here. It was the difference between a job offer for my Dad that had me born Canadian instead of American, that's all. Nothing magical. I care about the people. I identify with cultural groups. I care nothing for borders, nothing for flags. Well, flags do have their uses, but I just don't treat them like they are magic. I think of them kind of like nametags, but for countries. The flag stands for the country. The country does not stand for the flag. That's just silly. I do think our flag is very cute. Not very many countries have such a cute flag. I'm glad our flag is at least not ugly or boring. |
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On the subject of our flag, I think that red, white, and blue are a bit hard on the eyes but otherwise I like it. As a piece of cloth. Not what it stands for, not how it is used.
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Well, it can stand for anything, but currently people are using it to mean 'I support our government's recent actions'. As you have probably deduced, I do not support many of our government's recent actions. It is often used to demonstrate support for our government's recent actions, which I do not have.
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